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Honestly who cares about Howard or Allar right now?

Discussion in 'Steelers Talk' started by Steelresolve, Aug 22, 2026.

  1. Bubbahotep

    Bubbahotep Well-Known Member

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    What we learned from NFL preseason games: Geno Smith shined, Deshaun Watson didn’t - The Athletic

    Steelers:
    Presented with a prime opportunity to shake up the depth chart, quarterbacks Will Howard and Drew Allar settled only one thing: Mason Rudolph has to be Aaron Rodgers’ backup. Now in his ninth season, he has the experience and has been clearly ahead of both young quarterbacks throughout camp. Friday’s 17-0 loss to the Jets showed that the youngsters need considerable development if either is going to be the long-term answer.
     
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  2. CK 13

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    This! I feel that Allar will be the starter in 2027. Hand picked by McCarthy.
     
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  3. HeinzMustard

    HeinzMustard Well-Known Member

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    Not if we draft Arch! :rawk:
     
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  4. Voice of Reason

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    They are both essentially rookies. One was a 3rd round pick and the other a 6th.

    Many first round QBs have not done well in their rookie year (if forced into a starting role). I think we all need to manage our expectations for these two.

    Maybe one of them will develop into a future starter, and I hope that happens. We will just have to wait and see.
     
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  5. steelersrule6

    steelersrule6 Well-Known Member

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    The March for Arch :hehehe:
     
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  6. AskQuestionsLater

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    Cannot recommend this dude enough.





    Easily one of the best in the business. If one wants to learn more about how the QB Position should be played, JT O'Sullivan is definitely a name I can recommend.
     
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  7. Bubbahotep

    Bubbahotep Well-Known Member

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    It's funny because he didn't amount to much in the NFL. I guess teaching it is a whole lot easier than playing it.:thumbs up:
     
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  8. AskQuestionsLater

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    Even if he didn't become successful in the NFL, he has found success elsewhere. In the current meta of Sports Media, one that is driven by sensationalism and narcissism, it is refreshing to see those who are willing to teach the basics, breakdown the fundamentals and explain the principles. JT is such a person; even better that he is not beholden to corporate nonsense.


    For that matter, the next great level of Sports Media can only be found within the Content Creation Space. The NFL's experiment with Tom Grossi last season to start the Packers Opener in Brazil further proves my point. Legacy Media is either dying or it is dead.
     
  9. Eichburgh

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    I love this guy's video breakdowns. And I like the way he pronounces Drew's last name. LOL It's the way I naturally pronounce it when I see "Allar". But apparently not how Drew himself pronounces it.
     
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  10. Steelvision

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    You mention our o line being a mess and it really shouldnt be that way. Given that we’ve invested so much draft capital in the line. I just hope our new coaches can find the right combination and get more out of them and that our scouting in general is better moving forward.
     
  11. OX1947

    OX1947 Well-Known Member

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    No.
     
  12. OX1947

    OX1947 Well-Known Member

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    I care.
     
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  13. steelersrule6

    steelersrule6 Well-Known Member

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  15. steelersrule6

    steelersrule6 Well-Known Member

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    Ben always taking shots at Mason :rolleyes:
     
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  16. Bubbahotep

    Bubbahotep Well-Known Member

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    He's a Mason hater. Always was, always will be.
     
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  17. SGSteeler

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    Ah come on... he wants to see the young guys get a shot without making another portion of the roster suffer. He may have some animosity towards the Rudolph pick, but he's not the only person to believe this. It's not like Mason is irreplaceable. We spent picks at QB in the last two drafts... he wants to see them have a shot at developing under McCarthy. That's not necessarily a bad thing.
     
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  18. steelersrule6

    steelersrule6 Well-Known Member

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    I think Mason would get claimed off of waivers unlike Howard.
     
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  19. SGSteeler

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    Rudolph's skillset is just as replaceable. They just have to determine whether or not they want to invest in Howard's development or if they don't think he's got the goods to be a solid player in the league in the future. That's always been the question. They are very obviously invested in Allar's development, but they also know that he isn't game ready yet.

    Do you go with the zero upside/high(ish) floor vet in Rudolph, or do you think that Howard's ceiling in the league is higher than what Rudolph has left in his career? That's the question that McCarthy is asking himself now.
     
  20. SGSteeler

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    Who cares? If we determine that we want Howard then we shouldn't care if Mason gets claimed. Same for if we want Mason. The reality is if we don't like them, both of them are about as easily replaced as anyone else on the roster.
     
  21. steelersrule6

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    But they want to win now I'm sure they want a backup who has experience.
     
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  22. SGSteeler

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    Who knows what they want? Rooney said that McCarthy was hired for his ability to develop young QB's and that is paramount for his tenure... He could determine that it is more important to keep a young guy around to develop than it is to have a middling back up... We won't know what he's thinking until cut day.
     
  23. jeh1856

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    Doubtful but how is this relevant
     

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