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Howard or Rudolph?

Discussion in 'Steelers Talk' started by Joel Buchsbaum, May 21, 2026.

  1. jeh1856

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    Edit: please disregard the following :facepalm:

    And why do you think that

    Based on his volume of NFL work last year or his high draft pedigree

    He might go to someone else’s PS if he thinks he has a better opportunity but he is not going on anyone else’s 53
     
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  2. Brice

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    You so crazy. :)

    Allar is a 3rd round draft pick that would be gobbled up in a minute by 31 other teams.
     
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  3. jeh1856

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    Because I read Howard

    (I was between a brain ct and a brain mri if I can use that as an excuse)(all good)

    :facepalm:

    I agree re Allard
     
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  4. Steelvision

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    well its more than about pretty passes. Its whos making the right reads, who doesnt get rattled when a play breaks down and can make a play. And who knows when to take a sack instead of making a silly pass. If Howard proves to be ahead in those areas what do you think McCarthy will do? (Justin Fields and Mitch also threw pretty passes)

    i agree about MR, i think he’ll look better in this system than he has previously. He and one of the rooks will back up AR
     
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  5. Steelvision

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    if he really is worth a third round pick it should show in preseason. Specially compared with a sixth rounder who has yet to play in an NFL game
     
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  6. Steelvision

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    sure, but hes got to show something in preseason at least, some good decision making abilities, maybe look better than Howard.

    Even Kenny played well in preseason.
     
  7. mcam

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    That's what Mason is. He will be the #2. Will Howard will be cut. Allar is #3
     
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  8. Joel Buchsbaum

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    I know it’s very early in camp. The Steelers will only be on their third practice soon.But this much is already clear: Drew Allar is for real and he’s ahead of the perceived schedule. Anyone who was worried about his play under the incompetent boobery at Penn State under James Franklin or about his recovery — needs to understand this. He’s now working with a true QB guru as his coach (McCarthy), and our receivers are 10x better than what he had at PSU. According to reports, Allar is slightly ahead of Mason Rudolph and Will Howard. At least that’s what he’s shown in the first two practices (yes, small sample size). He’s throwing the kind of passes that create big plays and putting touchdown throws on the money. He’s hitting tight windows with accuracy. I hear not one of his passes hit the ground yesterday. Most importantly he is going for it, not giving the Steelers the check down variety.

    Aaron Rodgers is unquestionably the No. 1.

    But the real question is: Who is going to be the No. 2 when the season starts? Look for this: Veteran chatter. The players often know who can play after about four practices or so.
     
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  9. jeh1856

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    Half the people here think we need a reliable backup

    Half think just Allar and Howard

    This is probably why on average half the teams lose on Sunday
     
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  10. jeh1856

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    You make up some funny stuff

    But I’m impressed with your man crush on Allar
     
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  11. steelersrule6

    steelersrule6 Well-Known Member

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    McCarthy has been saying they could keep all 4 QBs, Howard would have to look really bad in the preseason games to get cut IMO.
     
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  12. Hanratty#5

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    This will be Allar's red shirt year so he will be placed on IR with a strained muscle in his throwing arm or something like that. We will have the same QB room as last year Rodgers, Rudolph and Howard.
     
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  13. NorthernBlitz

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    I won't be surprised if this is what they do.

    But I hope they keep both young guys. I think the downgrade at QB2 is worth keeping two lottery tickets.

    If we were more focused on the medium term, I think we'd cut Mason in this situation.

    But I think we're primarily focused on making the playoffs (or at least not playing meaningless regular season games) every year.
     
  14. jeh1856

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    Why
     
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  16. Bubbahotep

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    And you learned all this from unpadded, no-tackle practice?

    "Day1: Allar had a roller coaster of a debut, with multiple interceptions and touchdowns — but more of the former.
    One of his underneath passes was tipped by Holcomb and led to an interception by Wilson. Other passes were complete misses that were off target or jumped by the defense.

    Day2: As for quarterback Drew Allar, there were no jaw-dropping wow throws, no moments where the arm talent or athleticism jumped off the field. But he was comfortable. "
     
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  17. Brice

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    I still believe Mike McCarthy's idea of keeping 4 QBs, is with Howard on the practice squad.

    In 2024 McCarthy didn't even bring 4 QBs to camp. I don't know how rare that is to only have 3 QBs, as I always assumed you needed 4 QBs for Camp; maybe it just was a Tomlin thing, so he could give Ben his Vet Days off.
     
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  18. thorn058

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    axv15x.jpg
     
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  19. Joel Buchsbaum

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    Funny how? It’s not like I am mixing up Allar with Howard. Who recently did that?:smiley1:

    Understand this my fellow Steeler fan. We have a rookie in camp with franchise QB tools (arm talent, height, weight, and hand size) to mold. Allar is off to a good start in camp. So color me excited. Now JEH, keep your mind out of the gutter on my perceived man crush, okay?
     
  20. Joel Buchsbaum

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    UM, nope.

    There was only one interception that I am aware on a tipped pass. You claim there several on day one? Please produce the link. Or else it is fake news.

    Rookies make mistakes, but Allar showed me something.
     
  21. S.T.D

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    From what Im hearing nobody looks close to what A. Rodgers still can do at his age.
    This is why I keep saying in a training camp situation, not many starting Qbs could beat out Rodgers.
     
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  22. Bubbahotep

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    Google is your friend

    Steelers camp observations: Day 1 features defensive wins and a roller-coaster debut for Drew Allar | Pittsburgh Post-Gazette https://share.google/zrDNDeNxsJJLmWbX5
     
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  23. S.T.D

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    I disagree. I believe everyone that can stay in the NFL can get better until their bodies start to betray them.
    Also I believe a very high percentage of being a good Qb is mental
     
  24. thorn058

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    They are obviously pushing a anti Allar narrative what with their accurate breakdowns and stats. It's clear that the Post Gazette has gone all in on thee Ohio State and will seek to keep a Penn Stater down.....

    ......is what I would say if there was any truth about it lol.
     
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  25. Joel Buchsbaum

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    Just copy and paste the part of Allar throwing multiple interceptions on day one. That's all I ask. I am not registering just to read it.

    Aside for Wilson who caught the others interceptions thrown by Allar. Without names or video...
     
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