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Discussion in 'Steelers Talk' started by Captain Lemming, May 6, 2026.

  1. S.T.D

    S.T.D Well-Known Member

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    LoL.
    Did You read what I said, or did You already have the argument waiting. LoL.
    He played a whole preseason, was on the team a whole year, and played another year of preseason before this. Outside of Mason, we have nobody that has done that.
    Sometimes I think you just like writing without reading, or thinking.
    Reading is hard for some. LoL.
     
  2. Mr.wizard

    Mr.wizard Well-Known Member

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    I already said I thought Howard would end up on the practice squad. Taking Allar in the 3rd pretty much doomed Howard in Pittsburgh.
     
  3. S.T.D

    S.T.D Well-Known Member

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    If he is not worried about losing, I don't want him.
    I don't want anyone that not worried about losing.
     
  4. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    :roflmao:

    So Landrys 2 extra preseason games is what you are basing your argument on? Ohhhh that makes all the difference in the world, Dobbs obtained massive experience over Howard because of that. So if Howard took some preseason snaps last year then you’d be cool moving on from an experienced backup like Rudolph :rolleyes:
     
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  5. jeh1856

    jeh1856 Chilling by the pool

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    You don’t just put a player on the practice squad first you have to release/waive him

    First another team could claim him off waivers

    Also Howard could very well believe the grass is greener elsewhere if another team offers
     
  6. Aerosteel

    Aerosteel Well-Known Member

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    Agreed. If they put Howard on waivers hoping to put him on the practice squad they will probably lose him.

    I am not convinced that they will keep four QBs, so they will have to choose between Howard and Mason, because they are not cutting Allar as their 3rd round pick.
     
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  7. Mr.wizard

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    Im aware, but I dont think the Steelers care if someone claims him off waivers. My point about Allar getting drafted was that Howard is not part of the future plans. Also I dont think Howard is going to have that many options, if other teams are only carrying 3 QB's I dont think there will be much interest in adding him to an active roster. Rudolph on the other hand who is a veteran backup could easily get picked up and added as a number 2 somewhere, whereas Howard is at best a number 3.
     
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  8. Joel Buchsbaum

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    I'm not fully buying that take. If Howard gets cut and plays reasonably well in camp and preseason, I’m confident other teams will be interested in him as a third QB. He’s shown enough flashes that someone will give him a real shot whether on the practice squad or as a third-string guy. He will have options. Rudolph, on the other hand, fits perfectly as a #2 QB for any team that wants a proven veteran starter as insurance.

    I’d say Rudy is about 75% likely to win the #2 job. Howard still needs to prove his arm strength on intermediate and deep routes, and he basically has until the second preseason game to do it. The Steelers have not made up their minds until the 2nd preseason game. That is my point.
     
  9. jeh1856

    jeh1856 Chilling by the pool

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    Shown enough flashes where

    He has never taken an NFL snap

    And don’t give me college BS he went late in the 6th so nobody saw a flash there
     
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  10. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    Maybe it turns out I am super wrong about this but this Rudolph talk is bonkers. If it came to it, just go sign Cooper Rush off the scrap heap who played for McCarthy or Jimmy G or Josh Dobbs or maybe even Desmond Ridder. Or call up Carr and convince him to come out of retirement.

    Rudolph doesnt offer you some unmatched QB play that they will be lost without. Just makes no sense to give up on Howard for Mason freaking Rudolph.
     
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  11. S.T.D

    S.T.D Well-Known Member

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    What does Landry have to do with it???
    Yes I would say 8 preseason games, and a full NFL season of practice is a hell of a lot different than No preseason games, and injuries through the 1st season so no real practice. If you don't know the difference in that, Im wasting my time, but I'm sure you can change the subject later to fit the need
     
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  12. S.T.D

    S.T.D Well-Known Member

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    I said this before. I don't give a damn if its Mason, Rush, or whomever, but most HC don't like to go into a season with all the backups having no experience, especially with a 43 year old Qb, but You keep letting your hate of Mason cloud your judgment.
     
  13. Mr.wizard

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    The coaches dont have to wait for the 2nd preseason game to find out about Howard, he isnt some undrafted rookie. They have already seen what he capable of. Also he wont have alot of 3rd string QB options because its the 3rd string QB position, teams arent going to dump their 3rd string QB because Howard threw a Td in the 4th quarter of the second preseason game.
     
  14. Steelersfan43

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    McCarthy had done that several times in his career with Matt Flynn,Cooper Rush,Brett Hundley,Scott Toizien,etc
     
  15. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    We are talking about the Steelers entering a season without a proven BU QB. I misspoke when I started my previous reply saying Landry instead of Dobbs. So thats where the Landry comparison comes in. He was cut in favor of Dobbs who wasn’t an experienced BU QB, he never took an NFL snap when they cut Landry. They went into the season with an inexperienced BU.

    Howard, unless injured will have a full preseason under his belt this year, the comparison between him and Dobbs is practically identical.
     
  16. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    After proving to you the Steelers have entered a season without a proven BU QB you now change it to “most HC”

    You a funny guy.
     
  17. jeh1856

    jeh1856 Chilling by the pool

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    So

    Are you suggesting they should give up on Howard for Rush, G, Dobb’s or Rider :hmm:

    JK
     
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