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Sorsby to enter supplemental draft

Discussion in 'Steelers Talk' started by Blast Furnace, Jun 15, 2026 at 9:32 PM.

  1. NorthernBlitz

    NorthernBlitz Well-Known Member

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    I think this comment assumes that the NFL has a systematic process and needs to justify suspensions.

    Part 1 is kind of true IIRC. The process is that Goodell now appoints someone to look at it. They make a decision on suspensions. And Goodell can change that suspension to whatever he likes for whatever reason he likes. I also think it's true that the NFL does hire "PIs" to look into things (like Ben's sexual assault allegations).

    Re: a court. The NFL consistently says you don't need to be conficted of anything to get suspended. They just say something about "tarnishing the shield" and they can do whatever they want re: suspensions (at least I think this is still how the CBA works).

    If the player appeals, I'm pretty sure Goodell is still the person who hears the appeal.
     
  2. NorthernBlitz

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    Personally, I think he should have to stay in college since a judge already ruled he can return. I don't think he should be able to dodge a suspension in the NCAA by entering the NFL. Especially through a non-standard pathway like this.

    My understanding is that players don't get to decide if they enter the supplemental draft.

    They apply to the NFL to ask if they can enter the supplemental draft.

    So the NFL gets to decide. And they could decide that he doesn't enter the process this way. That might be the end of his football career...or he goes to the CFL (or something) if they'd have him.

    Since they make the rules (especially re: suspensions), I'm sure they can let him in contingent on him serving a suspension equivalent to the NCAA suspension so he doesn't "dodge" the consequences of his actions.

    And I honestly wouldn't be surprised if the NFL denied him entry into the supplemental draft since concerns about fixing games and gambling should be super high. Particularly after legalization of gambling, NFL getting money from advertizers like Draft Kings, and players in other sports already being caught for profiting on gambling.

    Honestly, I don't understand how the league can allow Jones and Kraft to be minority owners of gambling organizations. Especially since betting on the NFL has to be one of the main revenue streams of companies like Draft Kings. I think that "tarnishes the shield" and shouldn't be permitted (outside of them owning things in big indexes like SP500 or something).
     
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  3. Michael E

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    I read the supplemental order would be done by lottery, based on 2026 draft order odds. If so, Steelers have 21st best chance of moving up? They didn't lay out how it would work, just that a lottery is used. Not sure if round by round, one time thing, public or private, etc.

    As for Sorsby, it really doesn't make any sense for the Steelers to draft him, UNLESS some team wants to trade FOR Allar or Howard or Rudolph and send us back a 2027 pick.

    I am concerned about gambling. I am not sure the current NFL rules, but even if it were permitted, you can still have a player whose mind is NOT on the game if he is racking up millions in gambling debts. When he should be working out or studying scouting reports or game plans, he may be scouring gambling data, odds, blogs, etc.

    I don't think he is close to a can't miss NFL QB, so the risk is WAY too high on this guy. They could take a swipe at it with a later round pick...and see if they can get him but again, I think I'd pass unless they already know Howard doesn't have NFL abilities? If so, then having Allar and Sorsby battling it out in 2027 pre-season makes some sense and gets a jump on QB development.

    Gambling though, lots of negative intangibles, only slightly different than being an alcoholic. Sorsby could rip into teammates when a bet is lost or betting against his own team...might see some "not like him" ducks in the 4th quarter.
     
  4. Brice

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    It is a "Blind" auction. All teams submit their draft card without knowing what everyone else is doing.

    If the winning round comes from multiple teams, then they go by the 2026 draft order. (Draft ranking)
     
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  5. Brice

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    From that video posted, it sounded like only players that have no college eligibility left are allowed to be entered into the NFL Supplemental draft.

    We all know that Sorsby has already used his redshirt year, because that is the year he was doing all his betting on his own team. Just an FYI; Sorsby has never bet on a game he has played in.
     
  6. Karl

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    Unlike the regular draft, the supplemental draft uses a blind bidding system:
    1. Teams submit a sealed bid indicating which round they'd be willing to use to select a specific player (1st, 2nd, 3rd, etc.).
    2. The team that bids the highest round wins the player.
    3. That team then forfeits their pick in that same round in the next year's regular draft. So if a team bids a 3rd-round pick to get a player, they lose their 3rd-round pick the following April.
    4. If multiple teams bid the same round, a tiebreaker (typically reverse order of standings) determines who wins.
    5. Teams can bid on multiple players, and they don't have to bid on anyone — participation is optional.
     
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  7. Formerscribe

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    It isn't virtue signaling. Gambling on games involving his team compromises the integrity of the game. No sports league should ever tolerate that.

    The Colts quarterback you were thinking of was probably Art Schlichter, who destroyed his life due to his gambling addiction.

    Character matters and his is in serious question.

    Gambling addiction is a real thing. I have enough experience with addicts in general and gambling addicts in particular to say that I want no part of Sorsby on the Steelers.
     
  8. Formerscribe

    Formerscribe Well-Known Member

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    Great, but he used inside information and did something every player is told is forbidden.
     
  9. Brice

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    I don't know. Keep in mind that college players are allowed to bet on college games as long as they are not betting on games they play in or their school is playing in.

    His freshman year he may have thought it was OK since he was not playing and was allowed to bet on other college games.

    Schools make money from these kids gambling.
     
  10. Karl

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    Little background.
    I detest gambling in sports. I really dislike these stupid little apps that give you free money to hook you.
    I've seen gambling addictions of the worst kind.

    The commish said Sorsby can play ball.
    Sorsby is undergoing counseling as part of his recovery. He completed In-patient treatment.
    He also admitted he did what he did.

    Georgia and Nebraska forbids all their teams from playing Texas Tech.
    They rally other Big 12 to draw up a lawsuit so they can punish Sorsby
    They also rally other Big 12 teams to rule on its appeal
    Virtue signaling? Well yes. It's a bit much for the other bullsh!t they accept.

    Probably what should have happened:
    The commish should have upheld his suspension and maybe reduced it as Sorbsby met milestones.
    As it stands now, I would think 4 games suspended would be best case and half-season would be worst case for Sorsby.

    Why?
    Sorsby as well as any player in same shoes is playing for an opportunity.
    Mistakes are to be forgiven, as long as they are not repeated. It's up to Sorsby to decide what path he will follow.
    He did is treatment... I would probably stipulate "on-going treatment" (as a NFL team, I'm certainly going to have a talk with him and make my stance clear.)

    Another thing I hate.
    Sorsby was schedule to make $3-$6 mil for the season. Pretty wild.

    In any case... if the kid is doing what he should as a far as help and completes the steps, he should play and Georgia and Nebraska should pound sand and pay attention to recruiting to the rules. Not saying they are doing wrong, but teams do. Just make sure your house is spotless.

    I don't really backoff my remark, I probably could have clarified but I do what I do. :drinks:
     
  11. steelersrule6

    steelersrule6 Well-Known Member

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    The NFL did that with Terrell Pryor.
     
  12. NorthernBlitz

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    I think it also said that the only reason he doesn't have eligibility left is because he's going to drop the lawsuit he has essentially already won (which the NCAA may appeal?). But I could be misinterpreting the situation.

    My understanding here is that he's won the right to go back to the NCAA in court (but the NCAA can still appeal?). But the NCAA (or maybe just the conference he's in) wants to suspend him for the entire year. So he wants to avoid the suspension and go to the NFL through the supplemental draft. Which is why he dropped his lawsuit (I'm not a lawyer, but I don't understand how you can drop a lawsuit after you already won...maybe the NCAA is already appealing?)

    Thanks for the bold part. That wasn't clear to me.

    So, were the bets on a team that he played for but he wasn't playing?

    Looked it up and this is what I found...

     
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  13. steelersrule6

    steelersrule6 Well-Known Member

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  14. S.T.D

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    JMO, but I like the guys we got better.
     
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  15. S.T.D

    S.T.D Well-Known Member

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    I thought they changed it on who hears the appeal a few years ago, of course I could be totally wrong.
     
  16. Joel Buchsbaum

    Joel Buchsbaum Well-Known Member

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    What are the chances the man bets on himself to go in the first two rounds?

    May he be Cleveland bound.
     
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  17. NorthernBlitz

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    I could be wrong, but I think the old process was the Goodell did the initial suspension and Goodell heard the appeals. I think this is how it was when Harrison was getting fined for being too good at hitting people hard...and getting fined for hits the league was trying to sell prints of.

    I think the new process is Goodell appoints someone to do the initial suspension and then Goodell hears the appeals.

    I'm also not sure.
     
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  18. S.T.D

    S.T.D Well-Known Member

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    Yes that maybe what I heard. I know the old way was dumb. I give the punishment, and then I hear the appeal. LoL .
    Hmmm:hmm:
     
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  19. Karl

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    He was certainly 1st round talent had he been in 2026 and no betting scandal.
    But man, I can't see them spending a 1st on him.... I could see some other teams doing it.




     
  20. Wardismvp

    Wardismvp Well-Known Member

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    Just say NO!
     
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  21. Brice

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    Cleveland has cleaned house with both their Coaching Staff and Players so they can tank this year for the overall #1 pick in Next Years draft.

    I don't think Cleveland will even submit a bid.
     
  22. Bubbahotep

    Bubbahotep Well-Known Member

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    On a serious note, I hope for the best in his ongoing therapy. Addictions are a tough out, whether drugs, alcohol, gambling, etc.
     
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  23. Bubbahotep

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  24. james weyandt

    james weyandt Well-Known Member

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    how many more QB are we gonna get to sit behind Rodgers ...Give me a break
     
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  25. Blast Furnace

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