In comparing Howard and Alar ask THIS question-

Green didn't get to the playoffs and then have his WRs not catch a pass in the game like Allar did, I had no interest in Green I doubt he ever becomes a starting QB in the NFL.

 

I mean, what's Arth going to say? "We expected Howard and Allar to dress themselves, be in shape, and to not drool on themselves...but they're doing slightly better than that."

I can't wait for real football to start and be able to actually see the development of players and get a better idea of what schemes they will be using on each side of the football and at what positions certain players will be playing and how they will be used.

This offseason stuff at a message board is brutal. Nothing but people here arguing with each other over players that aren't on the team any longer, past head coaches that aren't here any longer, and things we can't possibly know yet.

Other than that, it's been a hoot!

 

Allar keeps getting better. Everything is starting to come together nicely. He is starting to make some throws that are impressive and accurate.

https://www.behindthesteelcurtain.c...g-strides-at-steelers-otas-germie-bernard-nfl

 

sounds like a message board to me....

 

What young quarterback has he mentored successfully? They likely hoped he could help the young quarterbacks, too, but they brought Rodgers back because he gives them their best opportunity to win games this season.

 

I don't get the love for Allar or the excuse making. You can blame the WRs, but he was still not great vs bad teams. His first three games last year were against Nevada, FIU and Villanova and he averaged 208 yards a game. The more pressure he faces the worse he does, and this I do not think can be fixed. I hope I am wrong he turns out great, but I think the odds favor that he won't ever be a regular starting QB

 

That's not what I asked. I asked did Taylen Green have wrs taken in the draft??

 

That's the 2nd reason.
I personally believe, not that it matters, but that You, and @jeh1856 are both correct.
You say he gives the best opportunity to win, and jeh because he can help the youth. Actually he doesn't even have to say a word to the youth to help, if they just watch how he watches film, how he practices , and that will be a boon. You can learn a lot from a vet , future HOF Qb by just watching, and listening.

 

When playing against good competition, Penn State always did better when they took the ball out of Allars hands.

He's got talent but lost them a lot of games with really bad decision making.

 

I heard recently some beat writer say that if he cranks it up with his whole body, he can make the throws. But, he can't 'flick' it effortlessly like top guys.

 

Pretty much what we witnessed from Pickett.

 

Well “some beat writer” certainly adds credibility

And another beat writer just posted “Steelers rookie QB Drew Allar already has the Aaron Rodgers flick down as he showed it off during a scramble drill at OTAs in Pittsburgh”

 

they said he completed 2 nice passes. no pressure on him, in shorts, and it wasn't a 40 yard flick. most guys playing qb in the nfl can fick the ball 15-20 yards down the field under zero pressure with one receiver to watch the whole way. control the excitement until there are other players on the field trying to hurt him. then we will be able to see how far he has come. way to early to get too excited yet.

 

Football in shorts

 

I brought this up before, but a few said I was wrong. None of those guys had strong arms compared to guys with really strong arms yet they all were great Qbs. Don't leave out Montana.

 

Who's making excuses? Let’s add some actual context.In those three games, Penn State absolutely dominated their opponents, outscoring them 46-11, 34-0, and 52-6. In those blowouts, Drew Allar wasn’t asked to throw the ball much because he didn’t need to. The team was running all over people and winning comfortably.Yes, Allar played poorly in the big game at Oregon. That’s fair criticism. But context matters. IE: he was working with a lousy group of wide receivers and a head coach who was eventually fired. Penn State rarely took advantage of his big arm by pushing the ball down the field.

 

The first couple days as a pro is really tough on a rookie - new team, new building… but he’s been really progressing really well. He led the team down on a two-minute drive the other day. It’s just been great to see him get more comfortable in the locker room and the offense.”

https://www.behindthesteelcurtain.c...s-early-takeaways-on-drew-allar-mike-mccarthy

Be sure to check this chart.



drew-allar-steelers-2026-nfl-draft

 

Ha! I literally just created a new thread sharing this article at the same time you were posting this. I deleted my thread. It's a good article.

 

Ryan hit this piece very well other than being wrong about reaching in the third

He was taken as quickly as they could get him with the first third exactly as they should

Thinking otherwise is just foolishness or bias

 

At some point, if you believe a player has the talent to possibly be a real player, you have to take him. People have tried to say it's a dumb pick or a reach, but if the scouts and people inside that building think he has what it takes to be good and he becomes a good NFL quarterback, and you lost him to another team because some mouth breather thinks you shouldn't take him until at least the fourth round.....everyone needs to be fired.

Passing on someone you think has a chance to be a franchise quarterback because you were afraid to take a chance in the third round would have been monumentally stupid. The difference between a third and fourth round pick is nothing in the football universe. The results of the pick don't even really matter. If the scouting says he's worth it, you trust your scouting and you take him. Let the cards fall where they will. Not taking the shot and losing him to another team would have been the mistake in my opinion.

It's the same thing with Will Howard. He was there in the sixth round and if a team believes there is value there and they see talent and potential upside, you draft that quarterback.

 

A big part of the reach thing is people letting people think for them

Oh he could have been available with our second third round pick while they look at someone else’s chart

People don’t think the let others think