What is the right offense for Drew Allar?

Well there is a sign of two guys getting old

We are measuring…….our hands………

 

LoL
Well I'm eating lunch, and I have a tape measure hooked to my coveralls pocket so....
I figured instead of guessing I'd actually check. Next measurement.....LoL

 

Here is what the data says:

https://www.healthline.com/health/average-hand-size#adults

Certain groups of people are just too small to play football in the NFL in the USA.

But, relax, you are above average by measurement.

 

Joel that is nice but useless to this conversation

NFL player hands are measured by hand width from tip of spread thumb to tip of spread pinky which seems more useful because that is how you hold a football

https://qbgrip.com/what-qb-hand-size-really-means/?amp=1

 

The link lists a spread. Check it out.

 

Read it again slowly

And at least what comes up on my phone it lists breadth not spread

And breadth is a very specific word

 

For some guys it's difficult to get a true measurement on their right hand because it's usually in the curled position.

 

Yes but horses prferr that

 

"Wilburrrr!"

 

I dont think there is a scheme you can plug a QB into and forcast success just based on physical attributes and mechanics. The NFL is so fast that I think the best weapon you can send a young QB out on the field with is an understanding of NFL defenses.

 

Tom Brady agrees:

• Mental vs. Physical Shift: While acknowledging that modern players are physically talented, Brady argues that mental development—understanding defenses, pre-snap reads, and managing the game—has diminished.
• Lack of "Field Generals": Brady noted that the focus on finding physically gifted prospects leads to less emphasis on grooming true "field generals" who master the tactical side of the game.
• Coaching and Development Issues: Brady indicated a lack of patience and proper instruction at the pro level, saying coaches often, "just teach them where they're at," rather than elevating their understanding.
• Collegiate and Youth Impact: He cited changes in college, including transfer rules and NIL, which impact the traditional development of players, as well as the tendency for youth to be told they are great, hindering emotional development.

Brady has expressed that mastering the mental and emotional aspects is crucial to being a top quarterback, and lacking this, a player is a "declining asset from the day you're drafted".

 

June 18th. One and only One Steeler remains a holdout. Drew Allar has still not signed his rookie contract.

What do you think he is holding out for? It is a Rookie contract, so we know it is not the Dollar Amount, as that is set by the NFL.

1) The Guaranteed money? Like a 1st round pick, does he want his entire contract Guaranteed in full?
2) Could it be the singing bonus amount? Is that even negotiable?
3) Does Allar want a "No Trade" clause in his rookie contract?

I am just not sure what else a Drafted Rookie can negotiate for? Does Allar hear Brendan Sorsby's footsteps knocking on the back door?

 

If I'm Kahn, no way I guarantee his entire contract. He was a third round pick for a reason. Make him prove he deserves the money.

 

Best offense is a clipboard for the first 2 years.

 

Yep.


Brady isn't the only one that has said this. I stated as such during my 2026 Write Ups and was blasted for it. That said, given how the league is returning to the QB being a position rooted in the fundamentals vs the traits, Brady has been proven correct.

 

Joel isn't talking about hand span (which is what the NFL measures). [ETA: Looks like JEH already pointed this out]

Kenny was ~8.5" IIRC. And I think this was after working to stretch out his hand for his proday or something.

Quickly measuring myself, it looks like you've got me beat (by a good margin): 9 + 5/16. The internet says that there's at least some loose correlation with height. I'm somewhere between 6' and 6'1". Not short. But not tall either.

So it looks like there's at least one dimension where I'm above the minimum threashold to play QB in the NFL! I assume that there are zero other physical qualities I have that would put me in that group. Particularly not waist size...

You're right in the middle of average hand size for NFL QBs!

 

It's easy to say that, and it might be true. Just remember that if he becomes something and you are negotiating with him, he holds most or all of the cards in future contract talks.

Also, he's in camp doing everything asked of him. This isn't a big deal. This is people trying to make it a big deal.

 

I thought all rookie contracts are guaranteed now. I thought that was the whole reason of the change to a specific amount per round. Hell I don't know. Every time I turn around rules, and contracts stuff is different now.

 

Unfortunately for a QB they normally like to extend them with two years remaining and you would have nothing to base it on

FA caused players to be played too soon and personally I think it watered down the game

 

You never heard me Blast it. I've been saying this for as long as I can remember.

 

I was going by hand span because I knew that's how they measured. That's why when I 1st heard K. Pickets I thought it was a lie told by people who just didn't want him.

 

Well it definitely has changed it. It why no matter how great I think Noll, and other HCs were back in the day, You can't compare them to the HCs throughout the NFL since FA is what it has been.
I believe the best way to compare is HCs before, and HCs after.

 

The guaranteed part drops by pick but the percentage has been creeping up in the second round

The Steelers will not set a precedence in the third round

Porter tried the same as the first in the second and it didn’t work

 

It is always money

Guaranteed money

 

I think the dollar values are fixed by round, but the guarantees are not fixed.

I'm pretty sure the %age of guaranteed money depends where they are drafted.

This line keeps moving further and further every year.

I think all of the first rounders now have fully guaranteed rookie deals.

And the front for where guys get fully guaranteed money is somewhere in rd 2...I think?