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Rodgers is coming back

Discussion in 'Steelers Talk' started by CK 13, May 7, 2026 at 8:10 AM.

  1. Bubbahotep

    Bubbahotep Well-Known Member

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    I like Rudolph. But unfortunately the reality is that he is a 0.500 backup QB. He won't elevate a team around him. He needs strong support. His biggest problem has never been corrected (I don't think it can be at this point). He doesn't sense pressure well, and he doesn't move well in a muddy pocket. Just not very strong against pressure. Nice guy though.
     
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  2. mac daddyo

    mac daddyo Well-Known Member

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    with mccarthy, mason could evolve. why not? if the young guys can evolve as far as many think why couldn't MM do the same with rudolph? he's not a bad QB but was behind ben and under tomlin. :cool:
     
  3. Pittsteely9

    Pittsteely9 Well-Known Member

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    Rainbows and Butterflies about 43 year old Aaron Rodgers is not a point I want any part of.
     
  4. Eichburgh

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    Yeah, nice enough guy. Hasn't complained. But the one thing he used to do extremely well seems to have disappeared. The deep ball. He was a one trick pony who lost his trick. Even as a backup, Charlie Batch was much better in relief IMO.
     
  5. freakfontana

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    Anyway if rodgers wants 30k we should move on
     
  6. steelersrule6

    steelersrule6 Well-Known Member

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    I think you mean 30 million not 30k :thumbs_up:
     
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  7. freakfontana

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    I would give him 15 milion base + 3 milion every playoff wins in incentives
     
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  8. Born2Steel

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  9. Formerscribe

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    The 2023 Bengals' defense gave up 374.6 yards per game. Only the Commanders were worse.

    The Titans' lousy record when Rudolph started isn't the issue. it was his poor play, which eventually got them to put him back on the bench.

    If you do want to use a quarterback's record as a measure of their performance, Kenny Pickett has a better career record than Mason Rudolph. 'Nuff said.

    The comparison to Darnold doesn't hold up. He was saddled with a horrible situation with the Jets, then drastically improved his game when he had the opportunity to work with strong coaches in San Francisco, Minnesota, and Seattle. He was also a better prospect than Rudolph to begin with.
     
  10. Formerscribe

    Formerscribe Well-Known Member

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    Exactly. Give Rudolph a clean pocket and he can make a few plays, but his pocket presence is awful. That is a difficult thing to fix. He is an easy guy to like, but nothing more than a middling backup.
     
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  11. Tiggs99

    Tiggs99 Well-Known Member

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    Wrong again. Both Levis and Rudolph played the last game. You forget the fact that out of 3 Titans win, Rudolph had two. ( he didn’t get credit for win against Miami even though he replaced injured Levis halfway through first quarter). He also scored 27 and 30 points against Cincinnati and Colts in losses, where Titans defense just gave up. The second last game against Jacksonville was where it seemed the team was trying to lose to claim the overall #1 pick. The GM got fired right after the season and coach midway through next season. They desperately wanted Will Levis to succeed and he had national commercials etc. Also your boy Pickett has a better record because they had peak TJ Watt on defense creating havoc. It's sort of like how Trent Dilfer won a SB even though he was mediocre
     
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  12. Tiggs99

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    Steelers were only leading 10-9 when he took field in the second half (Bengals had scored on their possession after half). His qb rating was 118.5 for that game. He actually had better stats than Rodgers. Any QB rating over 100 is considered good. That is top notch play and I believe one of the Steeler Beat writers (Dulac I believe) wrote an article that Mason is good enough to start for half the nfl teams.
     
  13. Blast Furnace

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    Just because you have the label as a QB guru doesnt mean every QB can be made into a stud.

    Rudolph is 30, even if he could be fixed, his time has passed. They are going to focus on the young guys.
     
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  14. Tiggs99

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    You are probably refering to his deep ball against Chicago. It's extremely difficult to be accurate on deep moon balls in Chicago in November when the wind from the lake comes in gusts. Windy city for a reason.
     
  15. Formerscribe

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    I'm not wrong at all. Rudolph had a shot earlier in the season, too, and wasn't good. He threw as many interceptions as touchdowns. I guess you think that is good.
     
  16. Formerscribe

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    It is difficult for a guy like Rudolph, who lacks a great arm, but you really do go reaching for an excuse on all occasions.
     
  17. Tiggs99

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    No. The coach had indicated that Levis would play as soon as he was healthy. This was even before Rudolph started his first game in relief. They were all in on Levis. That is probably one of the several reasons GM got fired right after the season . As far as TD/interception ratio, Bradshaw had about same. Rudolph moved the ball when opposition knew that they had to throw the ball because they were behind. He had at least two interceptions that clanked of receivers hands into DB's. He also had limited possessions because Titans Defense was giving up long time consuming drives. I don't think too many qb's in the nfl would have done much better. Bill Callahan, the coach stated after the season that they wanted Rudolph back.
     
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  18. Tiggs99

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    He's not Elway or Favre or even Jeff George. He has an average arm. However, not too many qb's are accurate on deep balls in Chicago when the wind is gusting. That's basic football knowledge.
     
  19. Eichburgh

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    Nearly half the NFL teams don't make the playoffs. So, yeah, he's probably good enough to start for some of the worst teams.

    Kenny Picket had a 108.5 QB rating in a game too. Doesn't mean he's taking anyone to the promised land.

    I've never seen anything out of Rudolph that made me want to see more. He's a career backup and nice guy. And I was fully in his corner when we drafted him. I hoped he'd be the next Ben. He looks the part until he's on the field.
     
  20. Eichburgh

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    I'm not referring to a specific game. Just what I remember seeing from him in more recent times, compared to early times. Maybe it's the inability to deal with pressure that impacted his deep ball plays, more than him actually losing the touch on deep balls.
     
  21. Tiggs99

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    Rudolph has had 7-8 games including three in his first year of starting with over 100 ratings. I don't think Pickett has half that. I have never said he is elite, but he's a cheaper and thus better option than signing other washed up but much more expensive qb's like Jacoby Brisset (e.g) until we find a long term option. He goes through periods where he looks very good. He will throw interceptions or get sacked and fumble the ball. That can be minimized. At least he moves the ball rather than continuous three and out we got with Trubisky and Pickett.
     
  22. forgotten1

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  23. Michael E

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    This. He was demoted in fairly short order on a team with no real good options behind him. That's a pretty good indicator of a low ceiling, low floor QB.
     
  24. jeh1856

    jeh1856 13 good years RIP buddy

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    Just as FYI that is not why it is called the Windy City :shrug:
     
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  25. mac daddyo

    mac daddyo Well-Known Member

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    what do you mean past? 30 for a QB isn't old, if he plays until rodgers age that is a whole career. most of his team mates won't last that long if they were rookies this year at other positions. it's not like he has taken a beating as a starter for years either. if many think he still can't improve under a better coach are fooling themselves. :cool:
     
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