A Steelers trade to think about.

Ummmm if they already have a good quarterback who is up and coming

Duh

 

After watching khan fleece the bears recently, I’m holding out for the Steelers stealing Caleb Williams from the bears.

 

Well, they probably wouldn't if Arch has a really good 2026, especially so if they need a QB.

 

no team since 1967 has traded into the #1 overall pick from a draft position of #18 or later.

so I would expect it to cost more.


https://na01.safelinks.protection.o...Z+o/T7qCR56wBk/oaNRB53AHHqSMuPUVg=&reserved=0

 

Not only is such a trade simply inadvisable, Fernando Mendoza is the furthest thing from a Franchise Signal Caller like Josh Allen and the closest thing to an average starter like Daniel Jones. Others say Jared Goff but that is in pure throwing motion only. I can also see Sam Bradford comps as well.


Overall, this draft, to me, doesn't possess a single First Round QB as a whole. Drew Allar's confidence needs returned to him, Carson Beck is tailor built for the West Coast, Ty Simpson needs to be red shirted and the rest?!... Yikes.

 

Seems Mendoza is not even considered a sure thing. Steelers have to really do their homework when the time is right and we have the necessary support players in place (Like the Chiefs drafting Mahomes at 10). I dont want to be the colts who drafted luck only to have him retire early from getting pummeled too often.

We should be in better position to draft a Qb in 27. No need to sell the farm and rush things this year

 

How did the Colts' know he was going to retire early and lose his love for the game ?Also how are the Steelers ever going to use 12 draft picks after making upgrades at several positions (Wr, Safet,y, Cb) during FA?

 

I believe our roster is in a strong position now. We have made significant additions to both the wide receiver and running back departments. Furthermore, the offensive line has improved with the emergence of Cook, and we have seen great progress in our coaching staff.

On Mendoza he completed 72% of his passes. Tossed 41 touchdowns and threw just 6 interceptions. His yard per pass attempt is very impressive. Equally impressive is his leadership skill and QB smarts.

He looks like a heathy Joe Burrow to me. And he has a good chace at being that type of player in the NFL. A top 16 QB.


https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/fernando-mendoza-1.html

 

The Steelers are not likely going to pick in the top 10 anytime soon unless we trade up. This year we have the draft capital to do so.

So trading up for Mendoza makes sense. I'm not saying we should do so, but I am saying we should keep an open mind and make the Raiders a low ball offer that the dome haired clown owner can't refuse.

 

I understand he is a new QB, but his initial return was rather low.

 

I guess because Arch played well in the second half of 2025.

 

It will cost a lot more than having 12 picks this year to move up to number one, the Raiders would want a first round pick in 2027 and more.

 

I wouldn't give up that many picks --Which QB is really worth taking number 1..

 

None of them.


Even Las Vegas believes that Fernando isnt fully ready. Why else would Kliny Kubiak sign Kirk Cousins?! Kirk sure as hell isnt sitting on the bench.

 

Oh boy he raised his completion percentage to 60

 

It is certainly a mixed bag with this year's quarterback class.

You are correct. Mendoza is not what I would consider a #1 pick talent, but he is the best quarterback in a weak class and he does show some signs that he can play at the next level.

I think Mendoza has a real chance to be good because he is a terrific processor. He isn't going to dominate with incredible physical gifts, but he should be able to read defenses pre-snap, identify post-snap, and be the point guard that distributes the ball the way the offense is designed and do it well. You know Tom Brady is going to be involved in getting him into the best offense and then sharing his quarterback insights and thought processes with him. That should help Mendoza if they can get enough talent around him, and it looks like they are doing a pretty good job of adding talent to the roster.

Also, in regard to Allar, he needs significant coaching. It was criminal at Penn State with the horrid offense he was in with zero wide receiver talent. He needs to be coached up and rewired because his QB coaching was not very good IMO. He has loads of talent, but there is a whole world of playing the quarterback position that is untapped. But it was obvious when he had an elite talent in tight end Tyler Warren that he knew how to feed the ball to his best matchup on the field and get Warren the ball.

That's what makes Allar such a difficult evaluation. The years of bad coaching with some bad habits with his throwing motion and footwork and lack of quick feet make you doubt that he can make it all the way up to what his arm can do. As you said, he has a confidence issue that was partially brought on by an offense with limited options built into it for him to try to take advantage of.

It reminds me of the time at the end of the Joe Paterno years when his son Jay Paterno was the quarterbacks coach. The quarterbacks literally didn't know what to do on the field because the quarterback coaching was a joke. Matt McGloin looked like the ultimate stiff at Penn State. Then Bill O'Brien came to coach Penn State, and in one year McGloin became a good college quarterback and actually had a 4-year run as a backup with seven starts in the NFL. Coaching matters.

On the other hand, Allar just turned 22 and he may thrive when he is opened up to a whole new world of information and processing with high-end quarterback coaching and the light goes on. Then he may put the mental and physical together and become a very good quarterback with a howitzer for an arm that can play in bad weather and make any throw.

He is in no way a slam dunk because he still has so much to learn, but his ceiling is very high if he proves capable of accepting the coaching and the mental aspects of the game click.

 

He struggled last year but it was his first year in being a starter, almost a 4 to 1 TD-int ratio along with 400 yards rushing and 10 TDs.

 

I like the way our roster is starting to round out. We have a decent enough roster, and should improve it come draft day as well...

I think Mendoza's leadership skills are his biggest selling point. He came into Indiana from a smaller school and became a leader, taking them to a National Championship Game (very similar situation to Howard). His TD/INT ratio is nice and his YPC is solid... but where he lacks is there isn't anything elite to his game. He's pretty accurate, but he lacks the pocket poise, the ability to thrive off structure, and there are questions that the system he had at Indiana propped him up with easy completions and few actual reads. I think he's a good prospect, but not a great one.

He looks absolutely nothing like Joe Burrow. There couldn't be a wider gap in skill set. He doesn't have Burrow's arm, decision making, pocket presence, athleticism, etc. He threw for 2100 less yards and 19 less TD's in one more game played. Joe Burrow had the same number of 400 yard passing games in 2019 as Mendoza has 300 yard games in his career... It's not a close comparison at all. Burrow was wildly more talented than Mendoza coming out of school.

I think the closest comp for him in the current game is probably Kirk Cousins or smaller arm Joe Flacco. I don't think Mendoza has the overall talent to be a top 10 NFL QB. I think if the stars align and he gets in the right situation he could come really close and be a borderline top 10 guy, which is enough to win a SB if he is a big game performer on a team full of talent. I don't hate the prospect, he's just not worth the #1 overall pick in a vacuum. If you're going to trade up (as you referenced in your scenario) you do it for a guy that could be a top 5 talent in the league... Someone that has that "something special" type of ability. Guys like Burrow or Williams. I think we'd be better off building the roster and waiting for next year. There's a reasonable shot that we will be able to draft a more talented QB wherever we sit, without trading away all of our meaningful picks.

 

Like him or hate him, Khan is a horse trader. He is not going to mortgage the farm to fill one position when there are so many other things that need to be addressed. You would end up one guy who may or may not be great..... But either way he won't have the pieces he needs to succeed which is going to make him look like the worst decision ever.

 

I already explained this to you but still you struggle with the concept

Others have tried to explain it to you

Once again Joel do your homework or you are going to loose your iPad time

https://www.drafttek.com/NFL-Trade-Value-Chart.asp

 

the colts should've protected him better. They should've known his career would be cut short with the abuse he was getting. Steelers don't need to acquire the number one pick. Just do the homework, identify the guy and move up enough. Chiefs acquired Mahomes at 10 by giving up two firsts and a third.

 

Steelers may not even make the playoffs this year. How hard would it be to trade up into the top 10 in 27?