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Pickett ranked worst first rd QB in last 5 years

Discussion in 'Steelers Talk' started by Blast Furnace, Feb 28, 2026.

  1. Eichburgh

    Eichburgh Well-Known Member

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    I'm sure there's a lot that went on behind the scenes that we don't know. And there was supposedly some text messaging going on between Rudolph and Pickett regarding what signing Wilson really meant.

    I'm sure there's also more than enough ego bruising going on. We draft Kenny in the first. Name him QB1. Essentially bench him after injury then bring in a HOF QB as "competition". Did anyone really think that Wilson was not going to be QB1 by default? How many first round drafted QBs, named QB1 in his first season, are going to take well having a hall of fame QB come in as competition?

    It makes me a bit nutz how much time we've wasted finding Ben's replacement. I know it's not easy and we have the benefit of hindsight now, but what we've done at the QB position, and the offense in general, has been a mess. And the horrific results have shown it.
     
  2. MojoUW

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    I am convinced it was Colbert's pick. Sure, Rooney had to sign off on it, he always does. But Colbert talked repeatedly about going out by setting the table for the next SB run like Newsome did with the Ravens by drafting Lamar Jackson to step in after Flacco. We can debate that reality all we want in another thread. But Colbert pushed to get one last draft. And he was bound and determined to get his QB.

    There was a series of franchise altering mistakes all made together. Letting Colbert have a legacy draft. Heck, we can rewind a draft or two prior to that and look at drafting the "missing pieces" for an old man Ben playoff push instead of the best players available. Goes a long way to explaining why there have been no second contracts handed out. But back to the main point -- Colbert made the KP pick happen. I just can't see it any other way. Then someone or some group of someones made the disastrous decision to hand Matt Canada the keys.

    You could have weathered a poor QB that needed to be buoyed by the system for awhile....teams do it all the time. Or you could have weathered a good QB held back by a crappy system....teams do that all the time. But you can not weather both at the same time.

    I honestly think Colbert was an excellent GM and believe he consistently made some savvy moves, but the last stanza of his tenure was really bad, at least in hindsight.
     
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  3. Bubbahotep

    Bubbahotep Well-Known Member

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    Richardson is the first QB I know of that pulled himself from a game 'because he was too tired'. I mean, what professional football player does that? Especially one on a rookie contract.
     
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  4. Bubbahotep

    Bubbahotep Well-Known Member

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    It's possible, but then the rest of the org is complicit in the decision instead of talking some sense into Colbert (and/or Rooney).

    You're right, it was a perfect storm of bad OC/bad QB. The only positive we can take from it is that the Steelers didn't spend years hoping to make the QB better. But in reality, it was KP that saved the Steelers from themselves.
     
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  5. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    Agreed. I really didnt think that was disputed. Colbert was on record talking about how he wanted to set the franchise up for the future after he left.
     
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  6. feltdeez

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    I have mixed feelings about this. I felt like Willis did the same thing in GB against the Rats but used an injury to cover for it.

    I didn’t like the blowback Richardson got because we see WR’s and RB’s ask to come out all the time after a big gain or a long sprint.

    I didn’t see the game but if Richardson was running for his life maybe he was dead tired?

    I do know I watched him play injured and he came out and when he went back in they ran a QB draw.. lol. Dude is limping like crazy and they called a QB draw. They screwed up and threw that man to the wolves.
     
  7. S.T.D

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    As wrs, how fast they can run, jump, or how far they can throw the ball.
    As we have seen. The two most highly decorated Qbs in the history of the NFL could not do any of that. Montana, and Brady neither could jump far, run fast, and neither had even close to the strongest arms in the NFL then, or now.
    All I'm saying is to rank a Qb, again a Qb by speed, jumping ability as their so called talent is strange. If that is so then Taylen Green should be the 1st Qb off the board this year, and we all, or most of us know he shouldn't.
     
  8. Bubbahotep

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    He wasn't running for his life. Now if you said he was tired of getting beat up with sacks then you might have a point. But even then I've never heard of a QB tapping out like he said. But I think he was just getting embarrassed with how bad he was playing.
     
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  9. Michael E

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    I was enamored with Corral myself, even drafted him in one of my dynasty leagues thinking I got a 3rd round rookie steal.

    I also liked Howell, but he had heavy INT downside too (gunslinger type).

    I didn't know enough about Willis, but enough concerns I wanted to pass, same with Ridder, just didn't see it. Pickett...smaller hands than me at 5'8" and I can JUST barely grip an NFL sized football, a little dampness or a strong swat and it'd be ping-ponging on the ground behind me as I was getting ready to throw a pass. The age and the ONE year wonder had me very worried, BUT I also admit we needed something and he seemed like a decent project. Just not FIRST round project. Still not sure what Tomlin and Colbert were thinking and who pressed for it more. Tomlin was in love with it being a local QB and Picketts passion or whatever it was. Not sure it was Tomlin, but sure felt like it. Colbert should have said he isn't worth it, lets trade back 10 spots, pick up a second round pick next year or something.
     
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  10. Rocky Mtn

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    Hopefully he didn’t fumble any of them.:drinks:
     
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  11. AskQuestionsLater

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    Correction on this!!


    It should say "tools heavy position for QBs" and not traits. My bad.
     
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  12. nor

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    If Pickett had come out the year before, he would have been the 4th or 5th best QB in the draft and, picking where the Steelers pick, our choice still would have been Pickett or not.
    So I fault our talent assessment, not our draft position.
     
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  13. Joel Buchsbaum

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    Hmm .. let's see. A one year wonder in a weak football conference , a weak arm, small hands below 9" , and lacking in the mental department ( only a 17 on the wonderlic ).

    What could possibly go wrong in round one with this type of quarterback?

    I'm not blasting Mr. Pickett. I am blasting the idiots who are no longer on the Steelers that had a say in making this decision.
     
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  14. jeh1856

    jeh1856 We want in so we can bark to go out again

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    Please provide proof
     
  15. Steelersfan43

    Steelersfan43 Well-Known Member

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    I said this because @Joel Buchsbaum@Joel Buchsbaum had his last post,like 10 times,now he has deleted it,so this is fine now!
     
  16. jeh1856

    jeh1856 We want in so we can bark to go out again

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  17. Steel_Elvis

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  18. jeh1856

    jeh1856 We want in so we can bark to go out again

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    If you got a 48 I would think the only thing that kept you from getting a 50 is not wasting time double checking an answer rather than not understanding the answer

    If this test meant anything to you you would have taken the full 12 minutes and got a 50

    This shows how dumb some football players are



    :thumbs_up:
     
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  19. blackandgoldpatrol

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    But..... but....... but...... Tomlin and his staff knew him so well since he played in their backyard......
    Tomlin said so dammit!!!!!
     
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  20. jeh1856

    jeh1856 We want in so we can bark to go out again

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  21. Steel_Elvis

    Steel_Elvis Staff Member Mod Team

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    The real wonderlic can’t be that easy, can it?
     
  22. Steelvision

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    So Colbert selected KP with Rooney and Tomlins buy off

    and Tomlin selected and promoted Matt Canada.
     
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  23. jeh1856

    jeh1856 We want in so we can bark to go out again

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    :shrug:
     
  24. Joel Buchsbaum

    Joel Buchsbaum Well-Known Member

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    A 25 is an above avenge score for an NFL player.


    Now in my opinion there is no accident that the best qb’s on modern times, men like Brady, Brees, and P Manning have very high wonderlic scores.


    But few qb’s have Ben’s atheism and size. In his case a 25 is fine.
     

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