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Did He take them to 2 SBs???
Wow I don't remember him doing that.
Again instead of changing things to fit Your argument. Find me a HC that has never had a Losing season, and been to two SB that's been fired. Until you can do that all You are doing is talking. You, and I both no you can't, and so instead of just saying the truth. Hey No HC that has been to two SB, and never had a losing season has been fired, you just keep talking. Why is it so hard for you to just say, it's never been done??

 

Did Tomlin ever have a Losing season as a HC?? Ever????
Did Tomlin also HC a team to two SBs??? Now find me a HC that has done this, and get fired. Until you do, you are just arguing to argue.
I'm glad he's gone, but this doesn't take away from reality of what has really happened in the history of the NFL. You can't wish thing to be different.

 

For most people, not having a losing season doesn't matter much, and the opinion on Tomlin would have been the same if he'd had a losing season in 2012, 2013, or 2022. But more playoff success would have been much different. I would have traded 3-4 losing seasons if it meant we would have gone further in the playoffs more often, like Cowher, who was in the AFC title game 6 times with three different quarterbacks, despite three losing seasons. Even Tomlin would have taken that too.

 

Yes change the discussion. LoL. You're good at trying that when You can't answer a question. LoL.
The question is name me a HC that has been to two SB, and never had a losing season that has been fired. Not what do you think. I think He should have left two years ago, but that is not the question.

 

Why answer a question you already know the answer?

But not because it's never happened before means it will never happen.

The NFL has first every year at so many things,like running QB winning a super bowl,etc

 

Loved that game as a kid... (although I swear the blue guy's head was too loose and was mostly the loser).

 

I still can not understand the "win a playoff game" debate. What does it matter? You have to win at least 3 for anything cool to happen...either you make the SB or don't. What does it matter what in between step you get bounced out on?

The Bills annually "won a playoff game" but they got their coach fired because they can not win enough playoff games for it to mean anything.

This just seems like some sort of weird "my coworkers make fun of me on Monday" argument...

 

I used to glue my fighters head down
Brother could never beat me

 

You bastard!!

 

FWIW, I think the decision to rebuild or not happens at Rooney's desk.

You heard it this offseason when we were looking for HCs. Rooney says "we are not rebuilding".

Seems to me that Rooney is worried about the financial implications of rebuilding. That tearing the team down might end up with having a team that looks like it should be in Ohio.

 

Art Rooney II needs to do something about the facilities as a whole. Yes, Acrisure Stadium directly owned by him but that doesn't forbid changes via the Steelers themselves being the managers of it. Rebuilding should also be on the priority list but getting better facilities for the players to use should be priority number one.


Again... five bathrooms... five bathrooms... five bathrooms.

 

Since your response wasn't in sarcasm font, I'll point out that I meant rebuild the roster, not the stadium.

 

I know your response was meant for the Roster. The Roster is a priority but to even complete that, need Free Agents. If a Free Agent wants to an NFL Team, chances are that player will have plenty of suitors. Of those suitors, whichever team gives him the best overall QOL along with the ability to be compensated will be the team of choice. Reputation doesn't mean much anymore.

 

What does it matter when you get bounced out?

How about... Winning at least 1 game means that you actually belong in the playoffs. That you played at least ONE competitive game. We had 6 consecutive first round playoff HUMILIATIONS. That means, we didn't deserve to be there at all. THAT's why it matters. We've become the team that EVERY other team WANTS in the wildcard round. That's a joke. We haven't been prepared to play a competitive game in the playoffs for nearly a decade.

And winning one is a hell of a lot more cool than getting pounded in the wildcard round.

It matters. A LOT.

 

That seems like a great deal of how the events on your TV make you feel and not a lot to do with winning Super Bowls. Just saying.

 

Dude that has been my argument forever. For any freaking HC. I don't give a F**k who the HC is.
1. Preseason: Get out without major injuries, and enough info that you keep the correct players.
2. Regular Season: WIN enough games to make the Playoffs.
3. Once you make the Playoffs nothing is worth a crap unless you win enough to make the SB. So win enough to make the SB.
Some people somehow think the playoffs are a stepping stone, Like You win one playoff game this year, 2 next , 3 the next, and make the SB. It doesn't work that way, and I have proven this over, and over.
Another of my 1000s of examples : The last 3 teams that have played in the SB didn't win a playoff game the year before.

 

LoL.
It matters so much that the last 3 teams to make the SB didn't win a playoff game the year before.
The last time we won a SB we didn't win a playoff game the year before. It is not a stepping stone .

 

LoL LoL. This made me laugh so hard. I wish I had thought of that.

 

I think it mattered more in previous eras of the NFL. When you could hold a starting roster together for a long time...I do think teams had to "learn" to win. Get in win 1 or 2, then make a run a year later or whatever. But with the massive churning of rosters each season, I do not believe that matters.

Plus what is the metric then? Win a WC round game apparently. Do you have to only lose by a certain number of points in the divisional round? Make the championship game? What is "success" and why is it success?

 

Define “Rebuild”

 

Tomlin defenders will be Tomlin defenders.

 

But I thought the #1 reason FAs wanted to play here was the HC? (...oops, that box is gone)

 

Never understood the reason for saying, "Just saying" at the end of what you're saying

Sharpening your knife during the regular season in preparation for the post-season has everything to do with winning Super Bowls. If all you're concerned with is having a winning record in the regular season and subsequently getting POUNDED in the wildcard round, then you get what you prepared for. We're not winning a super bowl by playing not-to-lose football in the regular season.