McCarthy vs Tomlin Drafts

I think GB was running a 34 when they beat us in the SB. But I'm not sure either.

"Base" defenses are sub packages now, but that was probably less true early in the dataset for both of these guys.

 

We know that Tomlin and the GM were on equal footing, and Rooney had final say. Likely impossible to say who was most influential on any particular pick so difficult to analyze who contributed more to any particular success or failure as far as the draft other than to say they were all involved. If Coach T had a strong opinion one way or another it is hard to believe that would not be influential.

 

No one was on the roster that Tomlin didn't want to be there.

 

Both the GM and the head coach report directly to the owner. That’s what the team has long said. They’ve also long said that the GM runs the draft.


Go back and look at the goo goo eyes that Tomlin made at Malik Willis during pre draft workouts. He didn’t draft Kenny Pickett.

I’m sure Tomlin has a ton of input. I bet the other coaches did as well. It would be foolhardy for any team to draft guys the coaching staff didn’t want or believe in.

But many Steelers fans trying to rewrite history.

Plus, we can always start talking about Bill Cowher and his love affair with the look in Alonzo Jackson’s eyes.

 

The only drafts that matter are the ones for the Steelers.


Fun graph. Looks like chances are very good we draft another OT early.

 

come game day

 

the Steelers were heralded as the WR whisperers back around the Young Money Crew years IIRC

 

Hard to compare anything related to how players were selected as it varies by organization who collaborates with whom to make the selection. What may be more relevant is after the selections were made, which coaching staffs were more successful in orchestrating their new talent into a cohesive winning team. In other words, who did better with who they drafted, i.e. game planning, player development. Just wondering. Interesting OP.

 

Here's the breakdown on WRs in Rds 1-3:

Rd1
MM = 1
MT = 0

Rd2
MM = 4
MT = 5

Rd3
MM = 3
MT = 6

When you combine this with PFR's AV for each, MM far exceeded MT in drafting high level WRs even though MT picked more earlier in the draft.

[btw, please feel free to substitute "KC" for "MT" if you think it was him doing the drafting. In the end, it's an org decision.]

 

Packers WRs That Didn't Suck 2006-2018 (Out of 19 total Picks) https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/green-bay-packers/draft/history/_/position/wr:

• Greg Jennings - Round 2
• James Jones - Round 3
• Jordy Nelson - Round 2
• Randall Cobb - Round 2
• Davante Adams - Round 2
• MVS - Round 5

Steelers WRs That Didn't Suck 2006-2018 (Out of 15 total Picks) https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/pittsburgh-steelers/draft/history/_/position/wr:

• Santonio Holmes - Round 1
• Mike Wallace - Round 3
• Antonio Brown - Round 6
• Emmanuel Sanders - Round 3
• Martavis Bryant - Round 4
• Juju - Round 2

Can we stop with the emerging narrative that Mike McCarthy and Ted Thompson were some WR drafting savants? Those two lists are at best a push. Arguably, Brown and Wallace have the Steelers extracting better draft value. The reality is that the two teams were similar in this period in that their incredible HOF QB made it work with a number of WRs. And each team drafted two incredible talents (Adams and Brown).

 

The steelers were considered by the NFL as the best team to draft wide receiver during this period.The packers were still solid even if it was not as great that the steelers during this time.This is true having a hof caliber QB help a lot but if one thing the pats were bad during this period in the Brady era was to draft wide receiver,so the packers and steelers still deserve credit for that even if having hof QB help big time