Let the off season begin.

I was trying to show him that all these coaches getting hired, and lumped into a certain HCs tree is ridiculous. Example: Matt LaFleur is being said as a McVay coaching tree, yet he started with the Browns, and then the Falcons. So if Matt LaFleur is from the McVay coaching tree. Then Arians is from the Tomlin coaching tree. It's the same many of the coaches that people like to put into a certain coaching tree. They didn't start with them.

 

This.

There is no definition for what counts as being in a coaching tree. Usually it's "if you were ever associated with a coach who has a rep for having a coaching tree, you are in their coaching tree".

Also, the Steelers seem to have a philosophy of hiring older coaches / coordinators. Our best coach since the 70s (LeBeau) was a failed HC who got promoted too far. I personally like this strategy because these guys were usually good coordinator which is why they got HC jobs. I think Haley was Ben's best OC (although he seems to be hard to get along with). It's also why I liked the Smith hire when it happened...although it wasn't as good as I'd hoped (thought certainly an improvement from the very low bar with Canada).

 

It's odd to praise the two cases here that missed the playoffs and penalize the one that made them.

Tomlin clearly had faults. But some people try way too hard to try to make it so everything he every did was terrible. There's more than one "TDS" IMO.

 

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Teller wasn't that good. A poor man's McCormick and I do mean poor.