Mason

Let’s not count Mason. He was under the MT coaching staff which by the way we all know did nothing. I would like to see what McCarthy does with him. I will be a learning curve both for Mason and Howard. Mason has the upper hand y knowing the system and playing time in the NFL.

 

Can he improve awareness in the pocket and reading defenses? Hes got good touch on his passes. if McCarthy can get MR to play better then he is the Qb whisperer

 

Mason's time has come and gone.

Don't forget in 2024 he went to Tennessee and went 1-4 as a starter with 9 TDs and 9 Ints.

 

the titans were a mess. i said this in another post that under this staff he should and could still get refined. none of these guys knows the system under this staff unless rodgers comes back. mason is only 30.

 

Nothing more than a career back up. He has had plenty of opportunities to prove himself to be a starter in this league and fell short time and time again. Time to see if Will Howard has what it takes to be a starter.

 

It’s a new system

How does Rudolph know it

And Mason is what he has proven to be a nice backup

 

I think Mason is at least an average backup. Maybe a little better than that.

But he's not a starter.

And while we all hope for more from Howard, if he becomes Mason that's a pretty good career for him.

 

Yep. Relief pitchers in MLB are averaging 6 Million a year. Back up QB’s in the NFL will probably be around that figure soon if not already.

 

You mean the system of Mike Tomlin and Arthur Smith??

Mason has the upper hand on no one. Every QB in camp this summer is on a level competition playing field, unless Rodgers returns. The fact that he played under McCarthy would give him the upper hand. And we'd only be bringing him back to be pretty much the guaranteed starter.

 

I would probably say that Mason has the advantage of being an experienced NFL QB who has played games against NFL opponents (in both preseason and real NFL football).

And he's been around multiple NFL teams. And even when he was with us, he's worked with multiple OCs so he's been through system changes in the NFL.

We know that he's a competent backup.

Howard is a mystery box.

And people like mystery boxes. Because they could be anything. It's why people buy lottery tickets (and packs of Pokemon cards).

 

Malik Willis sucked with Tennessee too now people want to sign him in free agency.

 

I have a feeling AR is coming back and it’s not necessarily a bad thing considering our current QB situation.

 

I don't think McCarthy can make all the moves he wants.
Will Howard and Skylar Thompson are the youngest.
Mason, he doesn't fit what Mike McCarthy wants to do.
But given the limits of what can be done, Mason probably remains.

I still can't figure why every article wants to trade Herbig.... I'd trade Highsmith.
Where does Mason fit in this picture? We couldn't trade him and he finally got picked up by Tennessee.
So as far as QB goes, I see why they keep talking about Rogers returning - which I am not a fan of as much as I liked his work last year.
It was obvious Rogers days are behind him, and Pittsburgh just isn't the same as Denver was to get Peyton to the Big Show.

I'd like to a good trade for a QB, or go via the draft (some say Simpson will fall to us, others say Beck - I'd take them)
And go with new QB, Howard, Skylar and Mason and see who's best.

Just say no to Kyler Murray and Malik Willis.

 

SPREAD THE CURTAINS
PULL THE SHADES
CRANK THE SHUDDERS
MASON REMAINS

A NEW 4 YEAR WINDOW INSTALLED

 

Mason had too many flaws.

 

Awesome point.

 

In the second half of last season Highsmith was their best defensive player.

 

Yeah Jets thought the same about Fields. We tricked them, let's not go getting tricked back.

 

That needs to happen 17 games
Herbig is younger.
Herbig is cheaper
Herbig is more consistent.

It could be argued that Highsmith is a better player, but he disappears too much. The decision isn't about skills, its about youth, value and performance consistency.

 

And Herbig can't stay healthy even as a backup he disappeared last season for a long stretch.

 

Herbig has kind of flopped whenever he is asked to play more than rotational snaps. Not surprising, he is undersized. I hope Herbig retires as a Steeler. I like rooting for Herbig. I do not think I would get in to a bidding war for his full-time OLB services.

 

Not sure how McCarthy or any coach for that matter is going to get rudolph to speed it up or stop getting antsy. Hes always a 1/2 second behind. That's not fixable with coaching.

 

I'd be OK bringing in Willis if he was cheap (like how we got Fields or Wilson).

But I don't think he'll be cheap enough for me to want him on the team.

 

You can say Herbig is not the athlete Highsmith is and get away with that fairly easy.
To be honest, I can't say he's the best - I want to draft the 2 LB's from Ohio and be done with it but that's not going to happen.
But Highsmith clearly has not lived up to his contract. He played lights out the season before.
Also because of the 14.5 sack season, and because he does have quite a few 50+ tackle game, He presents good trade value, more so than Herbig..
That adds value in the draft or maybe a stretch but possibly a player. (I'd rather go with youth in the draft)
Since we've played a number of games without and did well enough, the 'sacrifice' makes sense. We win in younger player, cap, and as long as we get a player that contributes, skills.

I can pretty much guarantee this is being mulled over as they draw up the wants and needs board, along with multiple other scenarios.
I would acknowledge that they would not accept anything under value.

But there's little value is debating this... I think it is common knowledge that most anything is up for trade as long as it benefits the team.
We want a Lombardi.
But I am also positive Herbig will not net us as much a Highsmith will. That's my issue with all the Herbig for a QB nonsense.