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Patrick Graham - DC

Discussion in 'Steelers Talk' started by Tiggs99, Jan 28, 2026 at 3:49 PM.

  1. Mashburn

    Mashburn Well-Known Member

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    Graham is more soft than Austin. Graham allows long drives to happen.

    Graham relies on
    - DT and pressure. Not sacks.
    - heavy on SS who is like the chess master.
    - olb drop a lot
    - young idiot DB excel in his defense. Because there's a ton of disguising.

    Bottom line, young defense look great. But that aggression is bye bye. And on order for it to work, he needs a really good SS.

    Think of it like this.
    Graham.... refuses to lose
    Austin/flores ..... want to win.

    The typical defenses you see is Patriots. Look at superbowl 49 and 53. They relied heavy on SS and NB..... you lose those two, and kiss the season bye bye.


    By the way, I'm not a fan of this. Not one bit. It spells a 9 winning season, maybe a playoff win, but nothing more than that, unless we have an insane Tom Brady show up (and no, Rodgers is not that. Rodgers can't do the long ball anymore with consistency).
     
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  2. Mashburn

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    Jpj thrived this year on one on one. He was meh the previous years because of coverage.

    So don't expect the Steelers to pick up his contract. Even if he looks ok. Because another team will take him to one on one.
     
  3. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    We don’t know what he will do, that is supposedly his biggest strength, his versatility and coming up with game plans that fits the talent he has.
     
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  4. Mashburn

    Mashburn Well-Known Member

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    We do know what he did for the Raiders. He took meh players and had them look good, due to the disguise. But bully defense was not his specialty.

    Tell me a coach that ran his system to having a good post season?
     
  5. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    Steelers will arguably be the best talent he has had to work with. He’ll be able to incorporate more things. If his strength is molding schemes to the talent he has, I cant see him not using a team that is known for its pass rush to his advantage.
     
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  6. jeh1856

    jeh1856 We want in so we can bark to go out again

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    By pick up his contract do you mean giving him an extension this off season

    I’d say that is a very high priority for them
     
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  7. Born2Steel

    Born2Steel Well-Known Member

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    We do actually know what he did with the Raiders, true. He ran Pete Carroll's defensive scheme.
     
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  8. Mashburn

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    Yeah that's what I'm meaning. But I don't see them doing it, if they like graham system. And I don't see jpj thriving in that system.
     
  9. jeh1856

    jeh1856 We want in so we can bark to go out again

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    I’ll get back to you on this ;)
     
  10. pczach

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    Graham doesn't have "a scheme". It's one of the things I like about him. He has run completely different schemes everywhere he has gone. He adjusts the scheme to fit the talent on the roster.

    Any talk about players not fitting his scheme is just wrong. We need to see the talent that the team acquires and find out what base he will be running. After that, he is going to use those players and teach them to be scheme flexible to do whatever he believes they need to do and use that as an advantage to try to matchup against any type of offense he is going against.

    He isn't a guy that only runs a 4-3 or a 3-4. He will run and has run just about every defensive scheme under the sun. The one thing I feel most strongly about is that he is going to use his Belichick philosophy of having versatile players that are able to play in multiple schemes and be able to line up all over the place when it calls for it.
     
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  11. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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  12. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    I’ve also been reading he had to run Carrols defense. He wont get that type of interference from MM. He’s an offensive guy, hes going to be like, here you go, do your thing Pat.
     
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  13. Steelpens65

    Steelpens65 Well-Known Member

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    Looking more and more like Mr Rooney to blame
    These scapegoats can no longer be used
    Tomlin
    Canada
    A Smith
    Our old DC
    Rooney now is the common denominator
     
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  14. NorthernBlitz

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    I do think we generally drafted well under Cowher.

    But it's worth remembering that Lloyd was one of "Noll's players" (just like: Woodson, Lake, Dawson, NO'D, Jerry O, Seals, etc). And Kirkland was drafted a couple months after Cowher was hired, so Donahoe probably had a bigger say in that draft than Cowher did.

    It was great when there were very few 3-4 teams in the league so fewer teams wanted tweener edges Cowher drafted (e.g., Gildon, Porter, Brown, etc)
     
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  15. NorthernBlitz

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    It was a long time ago...but this was very similar to my initial reaction to the Kevin Colbert hiring. "We picked a GM from the ****ing Lions? The Lions? Are we just trying to show the rest of the league that we don't care who runs the team?"

    Thankfully, I ended up being very wrong about Colbert. Even though the end of his tenure was lack luster, he was a very good GM for us.

    Hopefully, this ends up being a positive move too (or at least a negative one).

    And if it's not a good decision...I think I want a rebuild a lot more than Rooney does. If it happens by accident, I won't really complain (too much).
     
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  16. NorthernBlitz

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    In an ideal world, I wanted Flores as our DC. To kind of serve as a "next LeBeau" type guy. Failed HC. Very good defensive mind (probably biased, but I don't know that anyone is a good on that front at LeBeau).
     
  17. pczach

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    Yep. It is well known that Carrol took over the defense the last half of the season. The defense performed much worse running Carrol's defense.

    Also, don't discount that Carrol and the Raiders were tanking for the #1 pick in the draft late. In spite of all that and the Raiders brass holding players out with some bogus injuries at the end of the season, Graham still put up very solid defensive numbers with an offense that averaged 14.2 points per game.

    I'm not sure why some people are making claims about what scheme he runs. If they knew how diverse his defenses have been since he has been a DC with several teams, they wouldn't be making those claims.

    I think McCarthy will let him run his defense the way he wants to. It may take a while for everything to take hold because there is a lot to learn when there are multiple schemes and techniques to master, but I can't wait to see what he comes up with.
     
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  18. Steelpens65

    Steelpens65 Well-Known Member

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    This
    Not a HC
    Would’ve loved to have had as a DC
     
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  19. mac daddyo

    mac daddyo Well-Known Member

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    I agree on the Sawyer part and was going to mention that. I do think we draft a FS early.:cool:
     
  20. mac daddyo

    mac daddyo Well-Known Member

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    Who wouldn't? :smiley1::cool:
     

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