Something I Find Very Curious.

No . IMO they believe in their schemes, and abilities to design a play, and don't want a guy taking off , and wasting their design a 100 times a year. Just like a Defensive HCs doesn't like to design a Defense he thinks will beat a play, but someone on the D decides to do their own thing.

 

You don't know what you think you know. You're guessing and it's not based on any real evidence.
McVay traded 1 QB for a far better QB, and he got a Superbowl out of it. Besides, Goff is not a running QB, he's primarily a passer.
Remember in the SB vs the Pats, McVay didn't trust Goff to do what he needed him to do.

Correlation does not equal causation.

 

Good try, but He ran 12 times in Denver, and they weren't all tush push.

 

LoL. But You do. I showed fact, and You are giving feelings, and what ifs. Good try though.

 

No, I don't know what McVay thinks or wants.
You shared facts and then drew a conclusion from those facts that isn't supported by evidence.
I didn't draw any conclusions about what McVay wants or doesn't want.
I just said what happened, that he traded 1 QB he clearly didn't trust in the SB vs the Pats for another QB who everyone would agree is better.

 

LoL. OK
LoL

 

In the history of Super Bowl winning QBs, was there ever a running first QB? Running QB is subjective. What does it mean to be a running QB?

Mahomes runs but he’s a lethal passer first. Steve Young the same way. Aaron Rodgers, same. Russell Wilson in his prime, debatable.

What is a running QB?

 

I would say a guy who averages at least a 100 runs a year. I know people say why the number, but You have to have a point somewhere. If Your Qb is running it more times a year than your 2nd Rb, I would say he's a running Qb.
Mahomes doesn't run as much as you think, and his most running per game was this year.
Hell Mahomes on averages about 20 more rushes a year than P. Manning did.

 

100%.


I do not see Mahomes as a running QB. Rodgers wasn’t, Big Ben wasn’t, Russell Wilson is sorta close but he only ran to get first downs and not get hit.


If you look at the for sure running QBs in the past, Josh Allen, Lamar Jackson, Michael Vick, Kordell Stewart.

Run first QB never win titles. They don’t usually make it the Super Bowl.

 

Jalen Hurts is a running QB. He won the SB.
Yes, he is a passer first, but so is every single QB in the league. An argument could maybe be made for Tim Tebow, but he's long gone. Every single QB in the league is a passer first.

There's not many running QB's in the league, so it's not surprising they rarely make the SB. When like 90% of the QB's aren't running QB's, the odds aren't in their favour to make the SB, let alone win it. The fact only Hurts has won isn't proof they can't do it. Lamaar Jackson is definitely good enough to win a SB. Do I think he's a top 5 QB, no, but he's good enough to help his team win it all in the right situation.

 

He is like Indiana this year, a outlier, and they are a team that tush pushes on average over 30 times a year. So about 30 of those runs are tush push.

 

The question was not can they make the SB, the question was why do well known, and highly thought off offensive minded HCs stay away from them, or don't allow their Qbs to do the same. Don't confuse the subject.
We have watched two of the highest praised offensive minded HCs trade away QB with more speed for Qb that play predominantly in the pocket, and other well know offensive minded HCs not allow their Qb to run very much.

 

Was there even one time anyone on this board suggested they wanted an offensive sided HC so the QB would run alot? I doubt it. Many may have said we'd like a QB that CAN run and do it pretty well. I can't imagine ANYONE wants a run-HEAVY QB, ie several or double-digit designed QB runs. A few QB draws, a few rollouts, and my favorite, the naked bootleg (where has that gone?), but I would expect to see it maybe 5 times or less a game, even with a really good running QB.

 

Does anyone ever read the opening thread??
Again this is not the subject matter. What You want, what I want , what anyone wants in not what the thread is about. The thread is about highly qualified, and thought of offensive minded HCs not wanting, or using their Qbs this way.

 

Who said offensive minded coaches stay away from QB's who run a lot? Again, your conclusions aren't supported by evidence.
Andy Reid has Mahomes, who isn't much of a runner, although he scrambles very well.
McVay has Stafford, who isn't a running QB. He had Goff, who also isn't much of a running QB. While I don't know his thoughts, he obviously traded Goff for Stafford because Stafford is a better QB. Even if Goff is more mobile, Stafford is still much better. Neither is Hurts or Jackson, both are pocket passers.

Show me an offensive minded coach who said he didn't want a good QB who is also a good runner. Show me an offensive minded coach who has a QB that is very good at running and but isn't allowed to.

You're making some ridiculous assumptions

 

I know this is hard for you to understand the difference between a run, and a scramble. LoL. Patrick Mahomes averages about 20 runs a season more than the big time running Qb know as P. Manning. LoL
Again I'm showing facts, what You take out of it is up to you, and Your feelings.
I have often heard , don't tell me , show me, and I have shown the Qbs , how much they run out of well known , and highly respected offensive HCs, and You have given me , maybes , what ifs, and feelings. LoL
Good try though. LoL

 

Backyard Ben was so much fun to watch!

 

I like tacos

 

It looks to me like Jackson’s runs are starting to catch up to him.

 

It always does. Cam Newton was a good example of that. That and his pea brain not continuing to focus on passing more as his career was progressing or regressing.

 

I mean, its a double edged sword. If he focuses only on passing, it takes away what makes him most dangerous and effectively makes him worse. Cam Newton was kinda a similar. He was good because of what he could do with his legs (and that opened up what he could do with his arm). Lamar is a much better player than Newton... but that is neither here nor there. They're different types of runners, but Newton was done by 32. Completely cooked as a player. I think Lamar could last a bit longer due to not taking as many hits, but ultimately when his legs go... so does his career.

 

Could it mean, that defensive coaches understand what a headache duo threat qbs can be?!