1. Hi Guest, Registrations are now open. See you on the inside.
    Dismiss Notice

Ok Am I Missing Something.

Discussion in 'Steelers Talk' started by S.T.D, Jan 15, 2026 at 1:00 PM.

  1. S.T.D

    S.T.D Well-Known Member

    43,336
    11,312
    Dec 23, 2020
    I've heard fans on here, and in the media say we will not be good for awhile.
    What I'm I missing??
    We went 10-7 for the last 3 years straight with an assortment of bad Qbs, and cast offs.
    So if people are correct that Tomlin , and co. couldn't develop players, couldn't coach, or scheme, shouldn't the right coach that can scheme, and develop be able to at least not suck???
    What am I missing??
    We have more draft capital, and cap space than we've had in awhile. No way we are turning the whole team over that would be ridiculous. They didn't do that when Cowher, or Tomlin came in. So why shouldn't we be at least decent right away?? I'm not asking for Playoff wins, or SBs right away, but I believe if they Hire the right people, we should be competitive right away.
     
    • Agree Agree x 5
    • Winner Winner x 3
    • Like Like x 1
  2. jeh1856

    jeh1856 We want in so we can bark to go out again

    37,194
    13,066
    Oct 26, 2011
    You are not missing anything

    The people saying we will not be good just don’t know football
     
    • Like Like x 2
    • Winner Winner x 2
  3. SteelersfaninPhilly

    SteelersfaninPhilly Well-Known Member

    839
    230
    Apr 26, 2018
    We haven't won a playoff game in ten years. Why are people content with 10-7?
     
    • Winner Winner x 4
    • Agree Agree x 3
    • Hilarious Hilarious x 2
  4. S.T.D

    S.T.D Well-Known Member

    43,336
    11,312
    Dec 23, 2020
    Yeah I'm not understanding this thought process of some of the fans, and media.
     
    • Agree Agree x 1
  5. S.T.D

    S.T.D Well-Known Member

    43,336
    11,312
    Dec 23, 2020
    Stop , and think. Please. Name one person that is content without winning in the playoffs, and where in this whole post was that even suggested??? Stop projecting, and read what was written.
     
    • Like Like x 4
    • Hilarious Hilarious x 1
    • Winner Winner x 1
  6. shaner82

    shaner82 Well-Known Member

    11,513
    905
    Oct 16, 2011
    I agree with you 100%. I believe we have a very strong foundation in place. I do not want to make this into a Tomlin thread, but I believe we're very well run franchise and that has resulted in some of the success Tomlin has had.
    Add a good QB with a coach that can get more out of our offence, and I believe we'll be a contender again. Who knows how long it will take to get a QB though.
    We haven't typically made the big trades, but it's a QB league more than ever (unless you're Kyle Shanahan). We might need to give up a lot and draft someone.
    Or look into Kirk Cousins. I don't love that option, but I do think he's better than he's shown in Atlanta. Look at what happened once he was healthy this year, the team started winning.
     
    • Like Like x 2
    • Agree Agree x 1
  7. jeh1856

    jeh1856 We want in so we can bark to go out again

    37,194
    13,066
    Oct 26, 2011
    I give up

    Why are you content with 10-7

    And what does this have to do with the OP
     
    • Winner Winner x 2
  8. Eichburgh

    Eichburgh Well-Known Member

    67
    21
    Apr 30, 2025
    Or maybe we won't be good. We don't have a crystal ball. Maybe we go with a rookie QB who makes mistakes? Maybe some veterans leave or retire? Just because we've gone 10-7, doesn't mean anything. It's not a stretch to think if we start cleaning house a bit, we could slip for a season or two. I'm ok with it if there's a good plan for the future.

    I think it's reasonable to expect, that with our next coaching regime - if it's a good one - we should win a playoff game in 3 years. What happens along that way, no one can predict. Look at the Cheaters. 4-13 a year ago. 13-4 this season. It can happen.
     
    • Like Like x 3
    • Agree Agree x 1
  9. S.T.D

    S.T.D Well-Known Member

    43,336
    11,312
    Dec 23, 2020
    Agreed, and this is not a Mike Tomlin post, this is a Steelers post . Tomlin is gone, and has nothing to do with the Steelers now. I don't see why we can't be competitive if they hire the right people
     
    • Like Like x 3
  10. Chucktownsteeler

    Chucktownsteeler Well-Known Member

    785
    258
    Dec 9, 2022
    I think change is coming, but much too early to say we will be bad. We have 12 draft picks (I think) and cap space should not be a problem.

    We will lose some old faces and welcome new players as well.

    Much too early to tell if we will be better or worse. I don't think we are going to see a big drop off.
     
    • Like Like x 2
  11. Da Stellars

    Da Stellars Well-Known Member

    9,092
    1,244
    Oct 22, 2011
    I think there are a lot of unknowns until we find our QB.
     
    Last edited: Jan 15, 2026 at 1:17 PM
    • Agree Agree x 2
    • Winner Winner x 2
    • Like Like x 1
  12. S.T.D

    S.T.D Well-Known Member

    43,336
    11,312
    Dec 23, 2020
    But that's the point I'm making. The last 3 year the Pats went 8-9, 4-13, 4-13. They had farther to go, and redo, and we don't know what they will be next year. What I'm saying is if we went 10-7 for the last 3 years, the right people brought in shouldn't go completely backwards into 4-13.
     
    • Agree Agree x 1
    • Winner Winner x 1
  13. CK 13

    CK 13 Well-Known Member

    12,452
    3,150
    Nov 5, 2011
    Of course they should be competitive. I don't know of any team that comes into a season that would say any less.

    But even with a competitive team things fall through the cracks, And with a new head coach and staff who knows. A down year although being competitive would help in the drafting process and I wouldn't cast shade if in so it helps build the roster.

    We have some pieces in place but we also have a lot of questions from this roster build.
     
    • Like Like x 1
  14. MojoUW

    MojoUW Well-Known Member

    469
    166
    Aug 16, 2023
    Starting either Rudolph, Howard, or non top 10 pick as a rookie QB next season, I don’t see the path to many wins based on what season long outcomes have been across the NFL when teams were in similar situations.

    Overwhelmingly majority of comparable situations have topped out around 6 wins. Especially when you remove Tomlin from the sample set.

    I’m hoping and rooting for a different outcome but the league wide trends point to a 6 win streak.

    Now….pull a QB rabbit out of the hat and everything changes.
     
    • Agree Agree x 2
  15. Wolfepack88

    Wolfepack88 Well-Known Member

    5,078
    936
    Oct 16, 2022
    If we don't find a quality qb and start fresh there could be development pains. Our defense is old so safety, olb and interior line needs to be fixed and we can't miss there in wither free agency or the draft. OL is still a mess and on top of that we could have new schemes on both sides of the ball. Tomlin came in and really not a new scheme. So the comparison could end there if we wholesale change say to 4-3. Who knows, but doubtful we get a former two time mvp as our qb again so this season could have gone really badly at qb for us.
     
    • Like Like x 1
  16. S.T.D

    S.T.D Well-Known Member

    43,336
    11,312
    Dec 23, 2020
    Just because You change from a 3-4 to a 4-3 doesn't mean wholesale change. Cowher switched from a 4-3 to a 3-4, and didn't have to wait, and suck to do it, or get rid of everything. As to Qb, we haven't had a Qb in 5 years. If we bring in the right people, we shouldn't suck.
     
  17. Wolfepack88

    Wolfepack88 Well-Known Member

    5,078
    936
    Oct 16, 2022
    I agree we just cannot f it up or it will compound the problems. We have to hit on most fixes. No more huge misses on personnel early on. Look how the misses at ILB have left us looking like crap at stopping the run for quite some time. I want a fast turn around but steadying myself if it takes longer.
     
  18. Eichburgh

    Eichburgh Well-Known Member

    67
    21
    Apr 30, 2025
    Feels like you're trying to twist this into showing how the next coach can't live up to the Tomlin way. I don't agree. The minute we jettison some vets and go with a rookie QB, anything can happen. I would fully expect our record to get worse unless something really magical happens. It's not like we've been on the cusp of greatness for the past 7 years. We've had our a$$ handed to us in 7 consecutive playoff appearances. I have no issue with giving Tomlin credit for achieving 10-7, but to to actually become a competitor in the playoffs, we very likely might have to get worse first. This is not a new concept.
     
  19. steelersrule6

    steelersrule6 Well-Known Member

    38,722
    9,535
    Nov 14, 2011
    It will be funny to see all the fans who say they're okay with losing to see how they react after the losses pile up.
     
    • Hilarious Hilarious x 1
    • Winner Winner x 1
  20. strummerfan

    strummerfan Well-Known Member

    19,557
    4,073
    May 9, 2012
    Holy strawman Batman
     
  21. MojoUW

    MojoUW Well-Known Member

    469
    166
    Aug 16, 2023
    Cowher did not make the switch to a 3-4. Steelers were already running a 3-4 when he arrived.
     
  22. strummerfan

    strummerfan Well-Known Member

    19,557
    4,073
    May 9, 2012

    How many starting quarterbacks in the span? How many of those quarterbacks played at an elite level?
     
  23. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

    46,806
    11,215
    Oct 16, 2011
    I think some are just preparing themselves for growing pains but I agree with you, doesnt mean it will go that way.

    I dont feel the team is as bereft of talent as some people think it is. I think there is a good foundation there and have been putting together strong lines on both sides of the ball. That’s where it all starts, control the line of scrimmage and your chances of winning go up.

    Im in the minority on Howard but I think he could be good, at the very least I think we’d get decent play out of him. Or maybe look to bring in a FA like Mac Jones. I wont mention the other name :whistley:
     
    • Agree Agree x 2
    • Hilarious Hilarious x 1
  24. MojoUW

    MojoUW Well-Known Member

    469
    166
    Aug 16, 2023
    I think I am the one missing something.

    Here is the QB and wins from 2025 and other seasons: https://www.footballdb.com/statistics/qb-seasons.html

    Right now, Mason Rudolph is the 2026 Steelers starting QB. Who on this chart is similar in talent to Rudolph and won more than 5 games?

    The only one I see is Mac Jones. So if the "right" hire is Shanny...then when is the interview scheduled?
     
  25. Eichburgh

    Eichburgh Well-Known Member

    67
    21
    Apr 30, 2025
    6: Pickett, Trubisky, Rudolph, Fields, Wilson, Rodgers.
    0 played at an elite level, with Rodgers being the best of the bunch.

    But what's your point? My point is that the minute we start jettisoning vets, we very likely could get worse, especially if we start a rookie QB in a new offense with a coordinator that's not afraid to use the middle of the field, with creative play calling.

    Sometimes, you actually have to get worse, to get better. Playing for a "winning" regular season record, doesn't sharpen the knife to be prepared for the playoff battle.

    Troy Aikman was 0-11 when he started. Peyton Manning was 3-14 when he started. Terry Bradshaw sucked when he started. It's not like we have the 2004 team that Ben took over as a rookie.
     
    • Agree Agree x 2

Share This Page

Welcome to the ultimate resource for Steelers fans. Sign Up Here!