know the difference between a 7-10 season and a 10-7 first rd loss season?

a later 1st round pick in the draft.... this is why this team is a perpetually mediocre team. the fact that tomlin and the front office are afraid of a losing season is exactly why nothing changes as long as tomlin is here.

if i'm rooney i'm was on the phone to the giants looking to trade tomlin. but i bet his trade value is nil now.

does getting tomlin out of the picture a certainty to make a change in the right direction? i don't know but doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different outcome is the definition of insanity.

say whatever you want about me...say i'm a fair weather fan...say i'm a negative nancy...say whatever you want. you know as well as i do that what i am stating is the truth.

 

You wanted the Steelers to...intentionally lose three more games?

 

Afraid of a losing season—so Tomlin and the Rooneys should say here’s a plan, let’s intentionally go 7-10 ? I’m not saying we don’t need a top down change, but I damn sure don’t want to ever lose.

 

no i did not want the steelers to lose 3 more games. my point is that the sting of having a losing season isn't any more or less than having a winning season and getting embarrassed in the first round of the playoffs again.

had they made a change at head coach might have meant a losing season but it could have set the team up with better draft positioning to draft better talent as opposed to continuing to draft later in the draft. i've wanted to see a change at head coach for several years at minimum and so many shout from the rooftops "be careful what you wish for"... but this constant drafting at 20 or later because mr. i've never had a losing season does nothing but keep them drafting late in the draft. having a winning season and losing in the first round of the playoffs doesn't give them any benefit. mediocrity and being stagnant with no losing seasons and a first round exit just helps keep them mediocre/

i know drafting earlier doesn't guarantee you getting a serious game changer but it apparently can help your chances of getting one.

 

Screw the draft! Big F----- deal if you have a high draft pick. Brady, Montana, Purdy and tons of others say F the draft.

 

It’s true but those are exceptions. We have had too long of a streak picking in the middle, eventually catches up imo.

 

Teams can trade up to get players they believe are stars. KC did it to get Mahomes. You don't need to go 2-15 for an early pick. We're currently, just not good at building the team nor coaching it. Change is needed and it should start with Tomlin. Would be nice to hear the owner say that this is not acceptable.

 

12 of the playoffs QB this year was drafted in the first round...and QB like Lamar,Mahomes and Burrow was out this year

 

I don't ask to tank but they need to take a step back,play and trust the young players no matter what and look at the bigger picture

 

Sum a b!tch. Still a crapshoot and you need good coaching to develop them. Steelers are so so far away.

 

I agree with this....Need to develop them and the steelers don't have that

 

I agree. This isn't about intentionally losing games.

To me, one of the things that has bothered me the most since Ben retired is the way they will not roll with picking up a talented unproven guy or just play a young player on their roster to fill a hole. Without fail, the team goes out and signs a 12-year veteran who's best football is waaaay behind them and that they usually overpay for.

This approach occasionally works out, but when you don't have a dominant team and are just adding a single piece to the puzzle it leads to lack of development of players and becomes a patchwork approach to roster building that invariably fails while eating up large amounts of cap space. It also just means that they keep adding temporary pieces that need to be replaced continuously.

This team has moved away from drafting and developing in recent years, and have replaced that with adding veteran players hoping to catch lightning in a bottle. They have also done this at the quarterback position. Mike Tomlin just runs to veteran players every single time like a moth to a flame. It's his comfort zone, but that is part of the reason the team is in the position they are right now.

This team needs to get back to drafting and developing. A vet here and there is fine, but enough with the veteran patchwork approach.

If the team loses a few more games for a year or two while acquiring talent and letting them play and develop, fine. It's not about throwing games. It's about letting the natural process of growing pains happen. Then if you have a higher draft position for a year or two combined with the upcoming young talent, that's when teams take off and open a large window to do some damage. The team also has more cap space to sign premium free agents to put the team over the top.