I have so many questions about how our offense is managed

This might be a key observation. The OC sends in the players for each down, which then limits the options the QB has. I wonder how often they are on the same page of what they want to do. Depending on the personnel, the plays sure look too predictable, at least on TV to this observer. All the motion doesn’t seem to confuse anyone.

 

You’re ignoring the fact a fair number of those passes came at the end of both halves. This notion we abandoned the run isn’t supported by facts

 

We didn't commit to the run as much as we should have. Everyone marvels at Henry rushing the ball 36 times for six yards a carry against Green Bay, and they rightly credit that for winning the game for the Ravens. Our running backs were having similar levels of success. Yet they only ran the ball 23 times (with Warren and Gainwell, our best offensive players, only getting nineteen carries combined). Committing more to the run would have given us a better chance to win.

Speaking of Gainwell, who might actually be our best receiver with DK out, he only had four targets. Freirmuth had five. Miller and MVS combined for 16 targets. So our pass attempts weren't even going to our most productive players. The game plan was flawed, and it cost the team. Those are the facts.

 

And didnt convert on. 3rd downs which limits your opportunities. We had 3rd and 1 and gainwell broke off a 14 yarder that was negated by a false start. YOU’re looking at stats trying to paint a picture. It doesnt hold up to scrutiny

 

You're right. Third down was a problem all game, but it was largely a problem because of how we were attacking the Browns. If you want to cherry pick specific plays, why would we go empty set on fourth and one from the twenty and remove the threat of a run when we had been running the ball effectively? Why wouldn't we use the middle of the field more when it was necessary to pass? Why weren't we getting the ball into the hands of our more productive players rather than challenging good cornerbacks with our backup receivers?

The entire plan stunk, and the results speak for themselves. I don't know if that mainly falls on Rodgers, Smith, or Tomlin, but those guys better get on the same page and put together a competent game plan for Sunday night. Otherwise, the Ravens will roll over us.

 

Oh goood lord not the mof crap again. There’s a great video out there of that exact play. Smith had a perfect man beating play callled which resulted in Rodgers staring down miller. Thielen is wide open, but Rodgers never took his eyes off miller

 

There needs to be a website that tracks where the routes were run. Then compare those charts to those NexGen passing charts.

Be fascinating to see what is being called versus what is being executed.

 

I read that. You were wrong in July, and you are wrong now. I am far from the only one who realizes it. Any discussion of the offense this season starts there. The Steelers made a huge mistake tying their fate to Metcalf, and he let them down at the worst possible time. The worst part is that they will probably have to keep him.

Pickens is a better receiver. They are comparable in running routes and running after the catch, but Pickens has much better hands. Those hands and far better timing are why he is so much better on 50-50 balls. Metcalf is easier to like and a better blocker, but catching the ball has to come first.

The argument that Pickens had to go because he is childish, selfish, and immature doesn't hold up. Metcalf is all of those things, too. It manifests differently, primarily in Metcalf losing his cool during games, but losing it with that idiot Lions fan did more damage to the Steelers than any of Pickens' antics ever did to the team. He cost them a game that would have locked up the AFC North. He crippled their offense going into Sunday's win-or-go-home game against the Ravens. Even if the Steelers somehow pull that off, they will have missed an opportunity to rest many of their key starters going into the playoffs.

Mind you, I never argued for Pickens instead of Metcalf. They should have kept both and adapted the offense to their talent. That is what good teams do. That is what Tomlin did when he first took over the team, which is a big part of why they won a Super Bowl in his second season. With both of them in an AFC without a great team, the Steelers would have been legitimately dangerous. Instead, their season will likely be over Sunday night.

That will be the mic drop moment on this argument. That is if it didn't already happen the moment Metcalf got himself suspended.

 

I don't disagree. That's why I said Rodgers may be most to blame. He missed players open in the middle multiple times. If he is deciding not to attack those areas or is being discouraged from it, I have no idea. I do know that it will decrease our chances of winning if it continues, so I hope the coaches and Rodgers are devising a better plan for this week's game.

 

Blah blah blah

I already instructed you on this

 

What stat is that??
Completion % , wrong better here
TD rate %, wrong better here
Ints, wrong better here.
Average yards attempts, wrong better here.
Longest play, wrong better here.
And Last But Not Least wins.....better here.
So.......

 

No, what you did was spew an opinion that is not supported by the facts, one that is in no way convincing.

 

In hindsight, Kahn's quotes are a bit embarrassing:

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/69...sburgh-steelers-wide-receiver-depth-problems/

Steelers are reliving their wide receiver nightmare and have only themselves to blame

By Mike DeFabo
Dec. 30, 2025

PITTSBURGH — The depth of the Steelers’ receiving corps, or lack thereof, has been a point of contention since March 12, 2024.

That was the day general manager Omar Khan traded receiver Diontae Johnson to the Carolina Panthers. While it was a necessary move to shake up some locker-room dynamics and part with a challenging personality, the other shoe never dropped. Khan never added another proven receiver to round out that room. During the subsequent season, the depth chart at the position looked like George Pickens … a huge gap … and then everyone else.

Many wondered who would fill the void at WR2. The real concern, though, was what happens if Pickens gets hurt?

That worst-case scenario came to fruition at the worst time, when Pickens pulled his hamstring that December. His ensuing absence coincided directly with the Steelers’ late-season tailspin. Pickens missed a Week 15 loss in Philadelphia and a Week 16 game in Baltimore, when the Steelers had a chance to clinch the AFC North. Even after Pickens returned, the Steelers never recovered.

Rather than learn from history, Khan and the Steelers repeated it. This offseason, the Steelers reshuffled their deck. They acquired DK Metcalf in a blockbuster trade and then, shortly after, dealt Pickens to the Dallas Cowboys. The receiver room looked different, sure, but the dynamic was awfully familiar. Pittsburgh had one star receiver at the top of the depth chart … a big gap … and then a lot of question marks.

At least that’s how most people who follow the Steelers saw it. Well, everyone except the person most responsible for putting the team together.

“We wouldn’t have done this if we didn’t feel good about the receiver situation (and) about our depth there,” Khan said shortly after trading Pickens. “I know people make a comparison about last year. It’s not even close to being the same.”

What’s the difference?

“Well, obviously, we made the investment with DK,” Khan said. “We’ve had another year with some of the young guys and gotten to know them and watch them develop. We added Robert Woods. Roman (Wilson’s) healthy.”

The fact that Woods was part of Khan’s answer tells you everything you need to know about how the Steelers have evaluated the wide receiver position.

 

Poor route construction. Coaches do not put players in position to succeed. Time to move on from this 10 year debacle.

 

You take one line I said and run with it. I did however contradict myself in my own statement. I said Rodgers has played better here than with the Jets. With that being said my main focus has been over the last four years. I should have stated as such. This team has not been an offensive juggernaut for a very long time. Not having a good number 2 receiver really hurts. Rodgers in fairness doesn’t have the legs to elude the rush like he used too so he gets jumpy not trusting the young line at times.

‘look I’m not gonna sugarcoat. I’m done with Tomlin. The seasons are the same every year. It’s miserable to watch this team year after year with Tomlin at the helm. I’m sure he is a great human being, just ready for change even if it is worse. Yep I said just for the sake of change at this point.

‘I don’t like Tomlins selection of coaches. It was great in the beginning when he was encouraged to keep Cowhers coaches but over the years as he has gotten more control that aspect of the Steelers has gotten worse. I also don’t like our use of personnel and I don’t like that Tomlin has not shown the ability to put a legitimate product in the field without Ben in his prime.

I get it, it’s very hard to win without a franchise QB but that is how the league is. The HC is often viewed through the success of his QB. I don’t trust Tomlin to find and develop a young talent. Not only that we are never bad enough nor do we have the draft capital to get a bonafide talent.

‘Tomlin is too big for this organization right now. I feel like he overshadows the coordinators and front office/back office to the extent we really aren’t sure what we have in Arthur Smith or Omar Khan. It would be refreshing to have a clean sweep on the coaching side and see what the Khan and Weill can really do with more control.

 

‘I don’t put this on Khan. Khan is giving marching orders and he goes shopping. The issue is more on Smith and Tomlin for us not being able to draw free agents in here. We had chances at multiple receivers in free agency and they chose to go with different teams. Our offense isn’t dynamic and it isn’t a heavy passing offense that stresses a lot of wr 2 reps at least from a target persective. Plus you have a 42 year old veteran QB behind an inexperienced young offensive line. That doesn’t sound like a real stable situation if your wr2 looking to get an extended contract.

‘I don’t think we’re going to be able to fill the wr2 rule unless it is through the draft. We really have nothing to offer a free agent we right now other than better pay if we’re in a bidding war against other teams.

we aren’t going to draw offensive talent until we get serious about revamping the coaching staff and bringing in innovative coaching talent that can position theses players to succeed.

 

So like many , feelings over facts. Because You are done with the current coaching regime, you are unwilling to see facts. Like the facts I presented.
Sorry I'm not that guy, and even though I don't care if they fire Tomlin tonight, and I will root for the next coach, I will not make up stuff just to make me feel better about wanting a different HC.