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The Mike Tomlin (and general coaching) Complaint Thread

Discussion in 'Steelers Talk' started by AtlSteel, Oct 17, 2025.

  1. 86WardsWay

    86WardsWay Well-Known Member

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    If you want more bang for your buck then find a hooker.
     
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  2. Frost33

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    Last night really should have been a wakeup call for Steelers fans (hopefully ownership) and the NFL. Watching Tomlin stand on the sideline like a deer in headlights the whole game was infuriating. His team is starting fights on the field, and he does NOTHING. We watch him do this week after week. There just isn't any fire, and his players show that. There is a reason that Dan Campbell's players are willing to run through a wall for him. Your team reflects leadership. We're seeing the truth in that for sure.
     
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  3. Steelresolve

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    That statement is the ultimate in arrogance. I have always hated it, because he is clearly pointing the finger at the players everytime he makes that statment and takes no ownership or places no blame on himself or the rest of the coaches. IM just happy that the national media is finally starting to recognize what local fans have been saying for years.
     
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  4. bigbenhotness

    bigbenhotness Well-Known Member

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    There will be no Ben, Troy, prime Watt, Brown saving Tomlins butt this time :roflmao:
     
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  5. HeinzMustard

    HeinzMustard Well-Known Member

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    3 problems with this.......

    1. I'm happily married... don't need a Ho
    2. Prostitution is not yet legal in my state
    3. Traveling to Nevada from Mid Atlantic States is expensive by air and takes 2 days driving by car
     
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  6. GoalLine

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    No local Browns fans in your area?
     
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  7. OB1

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    They did adjust at halftime: they came out sucking all around.
     
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  8. Robert

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    We have more than a few issues, but pass defense is the worst IMO.

    In 5 games out of 7, the Steelers have given up more yards passing than the top passing team in the NFL is averaging. That is a major major problem.

    Thru week 8, the Steelers have given the best passing game of the year to Darnold, Wentz, Gabriel, Flacco and Love. 5 out of 7 QBs we have played had their best game of the year vs the Steelers. We have only played what I would consider 3 solid QBs and that would be Darnold, Maye and Love. We have yet to play any of the top passing teams.

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    Steelers pass yards allowed in 2025:

    Jets 218 vs Justin Fields who is now benched for terrible performance

    Seahawks 295 vs Sam Darnold. This is tied for his season high (295 vs Jags too)

    Patriots 268 vs Drake Maye who is a second year QB. This is slightly above his average of 253 on the season.

    Vikings 350 vs Carson Wentz who is bouncing around the league as a backup.

    Browns 221 vs Dillon Gabriel who is a rookie thrust into the roll after the Browns did who knows what at the QB position. This was his best game of the year so far.

    Bengals 342 vs Joe Flacco who is bouncing around the league as a backup.

    Packers 360 vs Jordan Love. This was his best game of the year.

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    2025 stats. Average pass yards per game by team. Top and bottom 5:

    1 Dallas 263.8
    2 San Francisco 259.3
    3 LA Rams 256.7
    4 LA Chargers 255.4
    5 Indianapolis 250.9


    28 Baltimore 182.3
    29 Carolina 179.5
    30 Cleveland 174.0
    31 Tennessee 168.4
    32 NY Jets 156.5
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    2025 average yards given up by team top and bottom 5.

    1 Atlanta 149.1
    2 Buffalo 161.9
    3 Kansas City 174.6
    4 Houston 178.4
    5 Cleveland 182.6

    28 Baltimore 250.7
    29 Indianapolis 252.0
    30 Cincinnati 256.0
    31 Dallas 258.6
    32 Pittsburgh 273.3
     
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  9. Steelresolve

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    I honestly feel like we have been hoodwinked. For years the national media fawned over him. He talks tough with words like “We don’t run from Adversity” and always alluding to ownership and accountability yet he himself and his coaching staff rarely if ever take any ownership or accountability. Sure they do so in words but the clearly don’t believe what they say because they never make adjustments or change.

    Tomlin is so convinced he is right and he has buffaloed Rooney into thinking the same that we just continue to do the same things year after year and we continue to have the same issues.

    Honestly when did we ever have really good line play under Tomlin other than when we had Munchak as the Oline coach. When did we have a good defense other than when we had Arians as the Def Coordinator. Sure we have had spurts with an elite player like Watt to carry the defense but against good teams when he was neutralized we were alway exposed on Defense.

    I truly believe we have been fortunate to have some elite talent that has covered up for some coaching inefficiencies over the years. When going up against good teams with good coaching those elite talents were neutralized and we were exposed as an organization. It would be nice to have those elite talents but you can’t build an organization philosophically around that, it just isn’t practical.

    Tomlin is not a terrible coach by any means but lets be honest he isn’t a great coach either. He needs elite talent to make him a good coach. Had he been a great coach our teams would have been even better with the talent we have had on the team over the years.

    Andy Reid is a Great coach and when he got an Elite talent like what he has with Malhomes they have become an elite team. We will never be that team with Tomlin. With Elite talent we will just merely be good.

    Tomlin has managed to convince Rooney he is an elite coach. He has managed to convince the front office that we just need to load up with aging high priced veterans like Ramsey, Slay, Watt and Hayward and he will get the most out of him because he is that good as a coach. He has managed to convince the front office that he can get the most out of our Oline coach we just need to draft better and sign free agents to build up the line. He has convinced everyone his system on defense is correct we just need the DC to implement it and teach it correctly and to throw more bodies at it because it is just an execution and communication problem it most definitely is not a schematic issue.

    The amazing thing is we keep doing it. How many CB’s and ILB’s have been through? I’m not saying Queen and Wilson don’t have their issues but I do believe there are alot of coaches out there that could get alot more out of these guys than we do.

    A good coach fins talent that fits his system. Then he puts them in position to succeed. That isn’t happening here and the more this has become Tomlins team (as in pairing away Cowhers old coaching staff and players) the more evident it has been to me that Tomlin is not a good HC. I have neve seen a coach take less responsibility and be seemingly willing to change his ways less than I have Tomlin. But he has all the answers and this is his world and we are just in it.

    The sad thing is he has no one in the organization to say stop. We have continued with this madness for far too long. At least he is now being exposed.
     
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  10. Chucktownsteeler

    Chucktownsteeler Well-Known Member

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    I was told there would be no math.
     
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  11. DJ18Baller

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    Most overrated coach in NFL history. I’m happy he is being exposed but sad at the **** show he has turned our team into.
     
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  12. Robert

    Robert Well-Known Member

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    Next week, we talk about Pi and how useful it is in everyday life. Stay tuned!
     
  13. Steelresolve

    Steelresolve Well-Known Member

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    Spot on
     
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  14. Wardismvp

    Wardismvp Well-Known Member

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    This staff is super LAZY, all involved. No dedication!
     
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  15. pastorbob

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    Give tomlin and staff some credit , it is not easy to be the worst every year for the past 10 yrs.
     
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  16. pastorbob

    pastorbob Well-Known Member

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    Money more important than pride in doing your best and giving us fans something worth our loyalty .
     
  17. OB1

    OB1 Well-Known Member

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    This happens when the owners only care about money. The culture is top down and spreads fast.
     
  18. freakfontana

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    Just saw the Game today ..conclusion : can we get rid of this FRAUD with is bull**** coaching staff ? Then let.'s get back to be serious steelers !
     
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  19. Jammasterc

    Jammasterc Well-Known Member

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    He took the team down and out.
     
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  20. Animus

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    I think Tomlin's time with the franchise has an expiration date. I don't know if its when Heyward or TJ decides the retire. Tomlin just doesn't want to experience a true rebuild and once those two retire, our defense truly will be in rebuild mode. They can't rely on over-the-hill FAs forever in attempts to keep this going. Once Omar/Weidle says we're in true rebuild mode is the day Tomlin and the franchise decides to move on from one another.
     
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  21. Born2Steel

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    I think.... that expiration date is the conclusion of the 2027 season.


    I also think... this team will be head and shoulders better than we are seeing currently by the conclusion of the 2027 season.


    I like how we have drafted since Kahn became the GM.
    I think Kahn will also be successful in finding the next HC, meaning team success on the field.
    This is not a bad team. Just not a contender. Yet
     
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  22. Animus

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    At the conclusion of his contract may very well be the expiration date. It kinda lines up with a few factors like Dan III likely taking over and TJ retiring by then.

    As for the team being better by, that really depends on drafting/development and seeing how Omar's guys are being developed, I'm not so sure about that if Tomlin is still in control.
     
  23. freakfontana

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    I don't know if I can stomach another season with this FRAUD .. well I will ...vomiting often !
     
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  24. TGH

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    We're afraid to move on.
     
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  25. steel machine

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    We had the better talent in a lot of those embarrassing Playoff loses. It was obvious to see that the team was under prepared. That is on the HC.
     
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