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Second Season is the "Magic Year" for Quarterbacks Under Todd Haley

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  1. ROBLISBERGER

    ROBLISBERGER Well-Known Member

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    [h=1]Second Season is the "Magic Year" for Quarterbacks Under Todd Haley[/h][​IMG] By Dan Snyder






    By Dan Snyder | Yahoo! Contributor Network – 1 hour 26 minutes ago








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    COMMENTARY | It was pretty clear to the people who surrounded the Steelers organization during the 2012 offseason that quarterback Ben Roethlisberger was pretty upset when the team parted ways with offensive coordinator Bruce Arians. They replaced the now-Cardinals head coach with former Cardinals OC Todd Haley.
    In his first year under Haley, Roethlisberger looked like an MVP candidate through the first half of the season. Through the first eight games of 2012, Big Ben threw 16 touchdowns to just four interceptions while the Steelers averaged three touchdowns per game.
    But after suffering an injury in week nine against Kansas City, Roethlisberger slowed some, throwing 10 touchdowns and four picks in his final five games.
    Roethlisberger still managed to have a pretty nice season in his first year with Haley, but history dictates that this year, his second with the offensive coordinator, should be one of the best of his highly-distinguished career.
    Take, for instance, the case of Kurt Warner.
    Warner arrived in Arizona in 2005 as a backup and spot-starter for the team. Haley took over the offensive coordinator duties with the Cardinals in 2007 and immediately made the 36-year-old his starter under center.
    Warner's first season as a full-time starter in Arizona was a work of art in itself. He threw 27 touchdowns and 17 interceptions in just 11 games. He finished 5-6 as a starter in 2007.
    But it was his second season under Haley that is most important. In 2008, Warner threw 30 touchdowns, his most since 2001 when he was with the Rams. He also threw only 14 interceptions and upped his completion percentage to 67%.
    Better still, Warner and Haley led the Cardinals to their first Super Bowl appearance in franchise history, which they would lose to the Steelers.
    Following the impressive playoff run and Super Bowl appearance, Haley was hired as the head coach of the Kansas City Chiefs, taking over a franchise that was floundering with a new quarterback in Matt Cassel.
    Cassel and Haley's first season together in 2009 was average to say the least. Cassel threw 16 touchdowns and 16 interceptions while the Chiefs sputtered to a 4-12 record. But it was in the second season, Cassel and Haley would seem to have a revelation.
    In 2010, the second season of the Cassel/Haley duo, Cassel threw a career-high 27 touchdowns and a career-low seven interceptions. Kansas City went 10-5 under Cassel and Haley, winning the AFC West and heading to the playoffs for the first time since 2006.
    In the end, it didn't work out between Cassel and Haley, or the Chiefs and Haley, or the Chiefs and Cassel. But it's hard to deny what Haley has done with two different quarterbacks on two different teams and in two different situations.
    Now, in his third chance working closely with a team's quarterback and passing game, Haley has the opportunity for the first time to build on an already established good first season with Roethlisberger. If Big Ben can play the way he did for the first eight games of 2012, Steelers' fans should be talking playoffs and possibly even MVP.
    But right now, there's a lot of good history on Roethlisberger and Haley's side.
    Dan Snyder has been covering the Pittsburgh Steelers for over a year now for outlets such as the Bleacher Report. Check out more of his stuff there and follow him on Twitter @dsnyder34
     
  2. ROBLISBERGER

    ROBLISBERGER Well-Known Member

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    As you can see I'm not too familiar with copying articles to post in a thread. Just though it'd be a good read for everyone
     
  3. Thigpen82

    Thigpen82 Bitter optimist

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    Cheers for posting.

    For me, the key point is about "if Big Ben can play the way he did for the first eight games of 2012." We're prone to forget he was having a pretty good year last year (despite a porous o-line and struggling running game).
     
  4. strummerfan

    strummerfan Well-Known Member

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    I was watching tv yesterday and a woman asked 3 former players why will the steelers rebound in 2013 and that was one of the responses. It was almost verbatim, wonder if this writer saw the same thing.
     
  5. BurgherBoy7

    BurgherBoy7 Well-Known Member

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    Health will play an important role in this year's offensive production. Ben, O-Line, and Heath all need to be healthy and play 16 games this season. Now Heath I know is the big question mark there because of his injury, idk if he'll be ready for week 1. But we cant forget that we did lose Wallace, and even if he had trouble holding onto the ball, he still almost always drew double coverage. But a new revamped running game should open up things a bit! Here's to hoping that this writer is right on this one!
     
  6. TarheelFlyer

    TarheelFlyer Well-Known Member

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    This is a great article overall. I personally expect BIG things from Ben this year. Our Oline should be better as should our running game. We may miss Mike Wallace some, but I think we will be better in the red zone this year.

    I think overall the analysts forget how last year went. This team may have been 8-8 in the record book, but that very easily could have been better.

    The team lost 4 games on last second FGs, 2 of which were Ben trying to do too much. If you make the Cinn. game a win...guess what, we are in the playoffs, not Cinn.

    The team also lost a game against Balt. with a backup QB basically on a Punt return TD.

    The team also lost, only by 6 I might add, to Cleveland in a game where we didn't want to have possession of the football. No one wanted to keep it in their possession.

    We finished 8-8, but only a couple of plays here or there kept that team from being 14-2. Small things make the difference sometimes. Last year's Steelers didn't get the plays when they needed them, but that doesn't mean we weren't capable of playing good football. We won AT the NY Giants and won AT the Ravens with Batch as our starting QB. The will to win needs to return. If that happens, and Ben plays like he did through weeks 1-9...watch out.
     
  7. TheSteelHurtin2188

    TheSteelHurtin2188 Well-Known Member

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    These are my feelings as well. I think the Steelers have a good year this year. Another article out there done by yahoo showed that since Colbert took over every third season they didn't make the playoffs. Last year was the third season so there's a little hope there.
     
  8. blountforcetrauma

    blountforcetrauma Well-Known Member

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    That's a really odd stat about Colbert. Any reasoning behind it?
     
  9. TheSteelHurtin2188

    TheSteelHurtin2188 Well-Known Member

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    I'm not sure but I will take it
     

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