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Coaching: A little column A, A little column B

Discussion in 'General NFL Talk' started by Born2Steel, Oct 18, 2025 at 2:19 PM.

  1. Born2Steel

    Born2Steel Well-Known Member

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    Doesn't really matter how anyone feels about our coaches. The fact is time changes everything. Tomlin's time as the Steelers HC will come to an end. My question is, what are some specifics you guys would like to have in a new HC?


    Example 1: The HC relies heavily on coordinators.... Dan Campbell is a 'rah rah', player friendly type coach. I think more than Tomlin ever has been. The Lions have put together a competitive team. He lost both coordinators and this year we have seen struggles. This doesn't make him a bad coach, just shows that the Lions are better with strong coordinators. I think this style sees more turnover at the coordinator positions, and more success variance season to season.


    Example 2: The HC/Play Caller combo....Sean McVay is the HC and offensive play caller for the Rams. He has an offensive coordinator (Mike Lafleur) but the HC is calling the plays. The Rams have put together a competitive team. This style seems to rely more on the right players to run the offensive system and less on having the right coordinator. I think this style sees high success initially until teams learn how to defeat the system, so this coach must be more innovative season to season.


    This is not a discussion on what we like or dislike about Tomlin. This is about what do you want to see once Tomlin is no longer HC. What type of HC should Khan look for?


    I don't think either is simply 'better' than the other. Both have their merits and drawbacks.


    What say you?
     
  2. Steel_Elvis

    Steel_Elvis Staff Member Mod Team

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    It’s tough to say because each “model” has worked and failed in the NFL based on the capabilities of the coach, assistants, players and franchise leadership.

    But, I do have a preference for a specific situation. If we need to develop a young QB (whether it’s one on the roster already or we need to draft one), I would like a HC/play caller who has a history of developing/improving QBs as an assistant and coordinator.
     
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  3. Born2Steel

    Born2Steel Well-Known Member

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    There are things I like with both styles and things I dislike with both. I have to agree with @Steel_Elvis@Steel_Elvis that I want to develop a new QB first and foremost. Building the system becomes so much easier if you have your QB.
     
  4. Steelpens65

    Steelpens65 Well-Known Member

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    This…
    And I will take flack here for saying this, I don’t have the utmost confidence in the current coaching staff developing a franchise qb.
    As to who can, no clue. But I honestly think it is time to look around.
     
  5. KnoxVegasSteel

    KnoxVegasSteel Well-Known Member

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    Well, maybe they would be all set of they got Spencer Rattler? :hehehe:
     
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  6. Joel Buchsbaum

    Joel Buchsbaum Well-Known Member

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    Very good or great coaches have " coaching trees " . Men they hire who branch off and have good head coaching careers elsewhere. The top OC's and DC's

    Tomlin' tree is bare. Lebeau and Arians were not Tomlin hires, but they were good OC's and DC's.

    That is what I think.

    Has any very good or great head coach not won a playoff game in 8+ years? I can think of none in the histroy of the NFL.


    IMO, Khan should look a good OC curently working for a good head coach. I list a name Brady, Joe Brady.

    - JB
     
    Last edited: Oct 21, 2025 at 7:08 AM
  7. Born2Steel

    Born2Steel Well-Known Member

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    Nice post. Has nothing to do with the thread though.
     

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