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Cards waive Hoyer, are we still interested?

Discussion in 'Steelers Talk' started by SteelByDesign, May 13, 2013.

  1. Thigpen82

    Thigpen82 Bitter optimist

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    Aha - makes sense. In a Cardinals-logic way.
     
  2. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    All I was advocating was to bring him in and let him compete for the #2, no harm in that if he can be had for very little. I wasn't saying to just give him the job, not sure why people (not you specifically) are so adverse to that.
     
  3. blackandgoldpatrol

    blackandgoldpatrol Well-Known Member

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    while i'm not against competition, and feel that there's no harm in a simple camp body, I don't recall seeing anywhere where our f.o. was so high on him, and wanted him back. we originally signed him out of desperation due to ben and leftwich being down and having batch as the last man standing. that's hardly a ringing endorsement on hoyer's skill set.
     
  4. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap10...burgh-steelers-reportedly-pursued-brian-hoyer
     
  5. SteelByDesign

    SteelByDesign Well-Known Member

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    Why do people have to be like this every time there's a post about a player. Nobody said ANYTHING about "the next coming" except you. Ed Bouchette reported after the Steelers signed Gradkowski that they "really wanted" Hoyer, but the Cards put a 2nd round tender on him to stash him.

    The connection is pretty clear to anyone with some common sense. If you're not interested in reading it, don't click the post (that was pretty clearly titled).
     
  6. CANTON STEEL

    CANTON STEEL Well-Known Member

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    After reading that article it looks to me that BA knew how interested we were in Hoyer and was attempting to put the screw to us a little.
     
  7. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    Yeah, I think it was a little of both, they needed a QB (at the time) and also to stick it to us. That's the first thing I thought of when he was released, it was just a big F-U by BA but I forgot they signed Palmer. They have 2 other camp bodies too so either this is a cap move (most likely since he makes more then the other 2) or he really has nothing to offer.
     
  8. mac daddyo

    mac daddyo Well-Known Member

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    i said that on here right off the bat. i think BA is a vengeful guy. i don't think he was all that sick last year in the colts playoff game either. he was pissed that he took them there all season only for the head guy to comeback and steal his thunder going into the end of the season and playoffs. he left his team high and dry. i believed that from the time it happened.

    so for BA to sign hoyer and keep him from us, didn't suprise me a bit. i bet in 3 years he'll be after ben too. that could be what the steelers are keeping in the back of their minds too, hence the landry jones pick. you never know. BA and ben are tight.

    i also don't know how well ben and the rooney's truely feel about each other after several distractions let's say. 3 years from now they may decide to go a different route if ben's game declines some. there's going to be alot of money involved to keep him, and BA could have some to spend by then. palmer will have out lived his usefulness to BA by then. all speculation on my part, but we will see. i don't think the BA ben saga is over yet.

    :cool:
     
  9. JackAttack 5958

    JackAttack 5958 Well-Known Member

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    BA won't make it 3 years as the Cards' HC.
     
  10. mac daddyo

    mac daddyo Well-Known Member

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    if they think he can lure ben there in year 4 he might.

    :cool:
     
  11. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    I can believe all of that except the Colts part, not a chance that I believe he would screw the players over to stick it to management. All the kids on that team loved him and he had a very good relationship with Luck, I don't believe he would hurt them for a personal vendetta. He also had to check back into the hospital a second time after returning to Indianapolis, lot to go through for a charade.
     
  12. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    Bet you never thought he would win coach of the year either :lolol:
     
  13. TerribleTowelFlying

    TerribleTowelFlying Staff Member Site Admin Mod Team

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    I can't remember off the top of my head (didn't get enough sleep last night), but he was actually a RFA two years in a row, because he was one game shy of a accruing a qualifying season. I know for a fact that the official NFL transaction sheet listed him as a cut Vested Veteran last night, and not as being on the waiver wire.
     
  14. gpguy

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    Interesting...must have been one of those rare/unique situations that rarely happen.
     
  15. SteelByDesign

    SteelByDesign Well-Known Member

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    Ed Bouchette today in the PG...

    --- No, the Steelers are not interested anymore in signing Brian Hoyer, who was released by the Arizona Cardinals yesterday. They were interested in Hoyer, but that was before they signed veteran Bruce Gradkowski and before they drafted Landry Jones.
     
  16. mac daddyo

    mac daddyo Well-Known Member

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    not if you want to look good for a head coaching position. the colts players liking him didn't mean much in his bolt to the cards.:cool:
     
  17. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    I don't follow? How does sitting out the playoffs make him look good? He still won coach of the year, that's what earned him a HC position. And leaving your players behind to better your career isn't the same as screwing your players to fulfill a personal vendetta, which I don't believe he had anyway, I believe he was as happy for Pagano as much as the players were, that whole season was about him and BA said several times that he was just holding the fort until he came back.
     
  18. Homestead____Works

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    OK, tell me, what makes people think that Hoyer is so good?
    Is it because we signed him once, in an emergency, or that there is actual proof that he has potential.
    It seems that more folks here are perplexed by other's interest, than those who are on this (very small) bandwagon.

    If we give him a chance, good for him.
    But, why him, there must be dozens of other available QB's with comparable/better credentials.

    Not against him, just wondering, why him?
     
  19. SteelByDesign

    SteelByDesign Well-Known Member

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    Dude, reading comprehension. Where did I, or anyone say anything about whether he was good or not? But to answer your question, we don't know... but the Steelers saw him in the meeting room and on the practice field for a few weeks and "really wanted him" after that... So they must have seen something they liked.

    Bouchette said Steelers wanted Hoyer - that is why I made this post.
     
  20. Homestead____Works

    Homestead____Works Well-Known Member

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    So, we all agree that he's not good.
     
  21. SteelByDesign

    SteelByDesign Well-Known Member

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  22. JackAttack 5958

    JackAttack 5958 Well-Known Member

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    You've got a point. :hmmm:
     
  23. JackAttack 5958

    JackAttack 5958 Well-Known Member

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    Ben will be a much different QB four years from now. He will either be:
    1) A very effective quarterback because as his physical skills have diminished he's learned how to be a much more cerebral quarterback by spending more time in the film room and on game prep.
    OR (and this is my fear)
    2) He will be relatively ineffective because he's gotten older and slower and his body has continued to take a physical pounding because of his style of play and he's been unwilling or unable to take the gray matter part of his game to a higher level.

    I really believe that's why we pulled the trigger on a QB in the draft now as an insurance policy against the latter. I'm sure hoping for the former though.
     
  24. mac daddyo

    mac daddyo Well-Known Member

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    his going to the hospital after getting back to indy. it's the perfect way to cover his butt, for leaving them high and dry in the playoffs and it covers sending a bad message to another team that may want him for a HC. you and i will definately differ on our opinion of this.:cool:
     
  25. strummerfan

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    I've got a truckload of supersized rolls of tinfoil for sale.
     

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