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How can these millionaire players not know the rules?

Discussion in 'Steelers Talk' started by 86WardsWay, Sep 14, 2025 at 7:16 PM.

  1. 86WardsWay

    86WardsWay Well-Known Member

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    Every player should be given a rule book upon leaving today and told to them there is a test on Thursday. Must score a 100% or your a$$$ will not play. Coaches too! Just forfeit the game if they are all that stupid!
     
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  2. Chucktownsteeler

    Chucktownsteeler Well-Known Member

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    From the beginning of the NFL, the kickoff is live. No excuse not to know this.
     
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  3. Hanratty#5

    Hanratty#5 Well-Known Member

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    One thing for sure all 11 Seahawks knew the rule. They went after the ball like a pack of hungry dogs after a ham bone.
     
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  4. fanfav

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    We were still in the game prior to that bone headed miscue. I blame coaching as much as I blame the player. Utterly inexcusable (and quite embarrassing I might add).
     
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  5. Brice

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    Funny, I don't think you know the rules. "From the beginning of the NFL" No, that is completely wrong. The rules changed 2 years ago, before then a kick that landed in the endzone that was never touched was considered a dead ball.

    Bad coaching Staff for not having their rookie players prepared for this NEW NFL ONLY RULE.
     
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  6. Chucktownsteeler

    Chucktownsteeler Well-Known Member

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    I am not talking the new rule and this kick didn’t land in the end zone.

    Any kickoff landing in the field of play has always been considered a live ball.

    Thank you for your attention in this matter.
     
  7. Brice

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    Nope that is wrong. Before 2 years ago a kick that landed on the 5 yard line and bounced into the endzone that was never touched was a dead ball as soon as it bounced into the endzone.

    Now, that being said, I still think Tomlin should have challenged the call because the player that recovered the ball never had possession of the ball before rolling out of bounds. Just because the Seahawk player touched the ball in the endzone does not mean he recovered the ball before going out of bounds.
     
  8. Hanratty#5

    Hanratty#5 Well-Known Member

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    Yeah for 88 years if a kick landed in the endzone or bounced into the endzone the receiver still had to down the ball. In 2018 the rule was changed that the receiver didn't have to down the ball then the rule was changed again 2 years ago. Anyway since Johnson touched the ball first he should have known that whether playing by the new or old rules he still had to recover the ball.
     
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  9. Steelhammer92

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    For once, I'll defend tomlin and say all scoring plays are both review only. He couldn't have challenged.
     
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  10. 86WardsWay

    86WardsWay Well-Known Member

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    The new kick off rules are stupid but that doesn’t excuse the lack of knowledge on the coaching part. He should have kicked that ball 40 rows deep. Touchback.
     
  11. 86WardsWay

    86WardsWay Well-Known Member

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    he had the ball. He threw it down knowing that. But Tomlin could have cashed in 5 challenges. He great at not knowing anything about them.
     
  12. Brice

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    I didn't think Johnson ever touched the ball. He just let it go over his head and assumed it would land in the end zone for a touchback. (Not knowing the new NFL rule)


    That being said, I was never a fan of Kaleb Johnson returning kicks. I just don't think he has the burst of speed it takes to get to the 30 and then start making moves, I always thought Kaleb struggled to get to the 20. He is a slow-moving train.
     
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  13. Hanratty#5

    Hanratty#5 Well-Known Member

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    He definitely touched the ball it bounced off of his helmet.
     
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  14. bleednblackngold

    bleednblackngold Well-Known Member

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    I remember when Barry Foster didn't pick up a live ball on a kickoff vs San Fran. This gave me flashbacks. My question is, does it matter if he touched it or not? I didn't think that would make any difference.
     
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  15. Steelrules

    Steelrules Well-Known Member

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    Coaches don’t know the rules at times. Just ask Brian Callahan
     
  16. jeh1856

    jeh1856 Life is good

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    You do know the other team kicked the ball
     
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  17. Hanratty#5

    Hanratty#5 Well-Known Member

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    Under the new rules it doesn't matter, it's a live ball. Its always been the rule that if you touch it you better recover it.
     
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  18. jeh1856

    jeh1856 Life is good

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    He sidestepped the question when asked after the game when asked if he knew he touched the ball
     
  19. Karl

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    Come on.
    Mistakes do happen. I remember Jim Marshall running the wrong way for a safety - for the other team (49ers)

    But you do coach your guys.
    As a KR, you make sure he knows the situation and he knows the rules.

    It was a terrible mistake but in no way does this make him "The biggest bust of the century" ------- Yet.
    If he makes no more mistakes and rushes to 1,000 yards, we get over it.
    If he just screws up every time he is on the field, then he is a bust.
    For now, it is a very stupid mistake that add to our chances of losing where Marshall's blunder was overcome as the Vikes won.
     
  20. jeh1856

    jeh1856 Life is good

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    The refs actually come to camp and explain the rules
     
  21. thorn058

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    There are some extra rules that kick in on a fair catch signal though right? Or is the muffed kick rule only apply to punts? You know if you signal for fair catch and it bounces off your helmet or goes right through your hands the kicking team must allow you an honest chance to recover the ball.
     
  22. thorn058

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    The infamous Plaxico Burress spike the ball vs the Ravens his rookie year is a closer to home example. Lots of adjustments need to be made going from college to the pros like the clock keeps running on a 1st down.
     
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  23. 86WardsWay

    86WardsWay Well-Known Member

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    I was talking about the numbnut who was trying to receive the ball. He could have ran back to the end zone and kick that ball into the stands and it would have been a touchback.
     
  24. Tweezer

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    Interesting more people haven't brought this up. I didn't think he had control prior to going out of the back of the endzone.
     
  25. strummerfan

    strummerfan Well-Known Member

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    Um no it wasnt
     

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