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People are freaking out over Kaleb Johnson's slow start

Discussion in 'Steelers Talk' started by steelersrule6, Aug 14, 2025.

  1. jeh1856

    jeh1856 Im a happy camper

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    Someone here has a little boner for Najee and he is not letting go
     
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  2. Blast Furnace

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    Oh boy.

    Now where did I put that thing, ah, there is it, time to dust this off.

    :butcher:
     
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  3. forgotten1

    forgotten1 Well-Known Member

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    YEAH!!
    You better polish the silverware!!!
    wash the dishes!!!
    scrub the ....
    lol
     
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  4. S.T.D

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    Problem with this thought process is you , and others are leaving out, fumbles, and injuries.
    I know a lot of You love Warren, and the way you showed it was to down Najee, but if it were that simple, all RBs would run for over 1000 yards every year. It's kinda like the people who act like never having a losing season is easy. If it was , no HCs would get fired, or have losing seasons. Now I hope, and pray that all of our RB way way way play better than Najee ever did, and I expect them to , especially of Rodgers can keep teams honest.
    I know this for a fact. L. Bell faced the least amount of stacked boxes for a 3 year period than any RB in the league did. That stuff matters.
     
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  5. S.T.D

    S.T.D Well-Known Member

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    No 7 fumbles are not bad at all, but when You figure in the small amount of touches he had to get that 7 fumbles, and people want to see him then get way more touches, and then he fumbles almost 1st thing in his 1st preseason game it makes you worry. I hope he is awesome, I promise. I would rather he be awesome, and help us win games , hell even be a MVP than to say, see I told you wasn't a good as Najee.
     
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  6. Wardismvp

    Wardismvp Well-Known Member

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    Kaleb will have more rushing attempts than Jalen? What you think?
     
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  7. jeh1856

    jeh1856 Im a happy camper

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    IMG_4583.jpeg
     
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  8. AskQuestionsLater

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    I agree.


    For that matter, I anticipate that Kaleb will take over for Jaylen Warren by the early part of the second half of the season. Not so much because Jaylen Warren is a bad Running Back.


    It is due to the fact that Jaylen Warren has a habit of getting banged up during the season. Granted, Running Backs have the shortest shelf life of any player in the NFL anyhow. However, Jaylen was injured four times during last season and didn't look good in any of the times he did return. In addition, he was already injured for much of both Training Camp and the Preseason. Given his increased likelihood of injury, this is going to press Kaleb Johnson into action much sooner than some of us believe.


    The question at that point will be "Will Kaleb's Pass Protection be sufficient enough?!" Time will tell in that department.
     
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  9. Born2Steel

    Born2Steel Well-Known Member

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    Had we re-signed Najee, we would now have a one-eyed Back in our deck of 53.

    I think KJ will be our workhorse RB of the future. I honestly have nothing against Warren(other than fumbles), I just don't think he's built to last.
     
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  10. AskQuestionsLater

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    Jaylen Warren's 2024 Season would agree with you. He got banged up four separate times during that season. He just returned after being banged up during this past Training Camp and Preseason.


    I like Jaylen Warren but I also agree that he isn't for long in the durability department.
     
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  11. Born2Steel

    Born2Steel Well-Known Member

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    Worst Rihanna video ever.
     
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  12. Born2Steel

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  13. jeh1856

    jeh1856 Im a happy camper

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    :facepalm::facepalm:

    That deserves 2 :smiley1:
     
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  14. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    Piggy backing this.

     
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  15. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    Najees durability and ball security are his two biggest strengths. His ability to stay on the field is a big part of why he had four 1,000 yard seasons but there are other variables at play as well. For one, there arent many bell cows anymore, Henry comes to mind but most teams embrace RB by committee now, even the Steelers have adopted it. The 1,000 yard season that impressed me the most was the year he had the lisfranc injury, can’t take that one away from him.

    You wrote: “and the way you showed it was to down Najee”

    No player is above criticism, how else are you supposed to evaluate a player if you don’t point out the faults in their game. You don’t agree with it but many of us feel Warren sees the field better, has better burst to hit the holes and greater lateral movement. It’s not just that he has a better ypc that makes us feel Warren is better, it’s also those traits he excels at more than Najee.

    I’ll take a little worse ball security and durability for a better more efficient RB. Let’s not act like Warren fumbles constantly. Harris has better ball security but his fumble in the playoffs last season was more costly than any of Warrens.

    Ask yourself this, if Harris 1,000 yard seasons were so great, why didnt the Steelers pick up a very affordable option? Why did the Chargers give him an incentive laden deal with a base salary less than the option the Steelers had for him? Why in a market that saw RB’s getting big bucks again did no one want Harris?
     
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  16. Steelpens65

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    But but he had 1,000 yds every season
    In a 17 game season:
    58.82 yds a game
    People only see what they want to see.
    Some don’t even believe in stats
    That right there was the best of all time!
    58 yds a game SUCKS
     
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  17. jeh1856

    jeh1856 Im a happy camper

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    Apparently it was the lines fault
     
  18. Steelpens65

    Steelpens65 Well-Known Member

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    If course it is… no one will ever take responsibility for ones actions
    I gave into today’s thinking
    Everything is my parents fault
     
  19. S.T.D

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    Ok, I don't agree, but ok it has good points. They didn't pay him because unlike Warren, they knew it would cost a lot.
    Ask yourself this. If they thought Warren was all that, and I promise, I hope he is........why did they never let him try being the lead back, even when Najee was hurt, and why did they make sure, and draft a RB high in the draft??
    Also like I said before 7 fumbles isn't very much for a guy who get a lot of touches, but 7 fumbles is a lot for a guy that splits touches with 2 other RBs most of his career.
     
  20. S.T.D

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    Apparently we've had a great line, and great Qbs the whole time was here. Funny that You have also complained about those self same OLs , and Qbs during that time.:shrug:
     
  21. steelersrule6

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    His stats would've been better if they didn't split the snaps with Warren, ran for 1,200 yards and caught 70 passes as a rookie with no Warren on the roster :shrug:.
     
  22. jeh1856

    jeh1856 Im a happy camper

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    Not me

    In no uncertain terms my parents let me know what was my fault was my fault
     
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  23. jeh1856

    jeh1856 Im a happy camper

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    Huh
     
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  24. Steelersfan43

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    True as receiver even if I am not sure it would matter much but as runner,Harris was 5th in carries in 2022,6th in 2023 and 7th in 2024,so he had one of the biggest workload in the NFL in each season

    The true,he was ineffective, especially last year with only a 43% success rate(bottom 5 in the NFL) and 46% of his career.He was below league average in 3 of the 4 years
     
  25. Formerscribe

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    He also had averages of 3.2 and 3.5 yards during his final two seasons with the Rams. I can use outliers, too.

    Harris is not even close to Bettis's level, but he doesn't have to be a Hall of Famer to be very valuable. The use of Bettis's career average helps demonstrate that Harris's current career mark isn't the microphone drop you think it is.
     
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