why can NE trade down and we cant.. thats why they are good

WOW, am I on the wrong board here.

 

I don't hate Brady in fact I think he is a lot of what you say he is but I come here to talk and see others thoughts on Steelers football, not how great the Patriots and Brady are, but on second thought this is the draft room so maybe anything goes here.

 

The most important thing is

the songlist for our new HOF players

i'm stuck on Shamarko

maybe when he hits someone hard we can shout

POLO!!

 

I would have traded our 17 pick for what Belichick got for his 29 pick, he got the vikes 2-3-4-7 picks in this draft, I wonder if the vikes called when we was on the clock, if they did we blew a gang buster trade for sure...

 

Now you're over playing my words. I'm not talking about someone who is 35 or 60 or whatever. You're making a big deal over someone who is only a year or 2 older than most of the other draft picks. Example Vaccaro is 22....Fisher the very first pick was 22...Patterson is 22...Eifert 22...Jones is currently 23. This was my point...he's not much older than the other players drafted or other players people wanted the Steelers to take. We're not talking about a 34 year old player here...and I'm not saying age isn't a concern. I'm saying its not a concern right now. Hell we're not the Eagles who drafted a 27-28 y/o linemen a couple years ago...or the Browns who took Weeden who was 27-28 last year. Harrison didnt start until he was 27-28...same thing with Keisel....and both of them turned out just fine.

While yes...he may sit some he may not...with a lot of the previous D first rounders they still had solid starters in front of them...

Timmons had Foote and Farrior
Hood had Smith
Heyward has Keisel

Other non-first rounders that had the same thing happen:

Harrison had Porter
Keisel had Kimo
Worilds had Harrison and Woodley

I do think unlike these past situations...all the Steelers have now is Worilds who is not locked up beyond this season....and Woodley who is. Jones should easily play some this year (maybe like Aldon Smith as someone said)...and could easily be the starter next year especially if Worilds is not around or flops this year and becomes backup.

And again as far as his medical stuff...as I said your a fool if you think the Steelers would still take him if he had a bunch of red flags. I dont care about USC a few years ago. He's played for 2 years now and has gotten many clean bills of health.

You're trying to say I dont know what I'm talking about and I have a lack of knowledge? You're trying to put words into my mouth. Just because YOU dont like the pick...and you're looking at a bunch of reasons that really dont even matter one bit at this point. He was the best pick with who was available and he does fill a need...thats all there is to it. Hate it all you want...but its not going to change it.

 

No way...move from 17 all the way down to well...the Steelers 2nd round pick (as the Vikings pick after them)? Yes they'd have the power to move up if needed...but no. If the Vikes included one of their 1sts and a couple of those picks sure...thats more fair. No way the Steelers take that deal and move that far down.

 

Age is not much of a factor to me at least at this point. Look at Harrison's stats. 2004 was the first year he played at all for us. He was 26. His first "great" season was 8.5 sacks at the age of 29....29! Up till that point over 3 seasons he had 4 total sacks.

Let's relax about the age a little.

 

i think jones age work in his favour is one year more mature than normal draft picks , and btw he will see the field a lot in his first year ,

 

I was going to respond earlier in the day that I would be frustrated as a Pats fan, as they've played this game a few times too many. But I was feeling lazy...

 

Thank you!

 

and finally

 

3rd best player on our defence? Come on, that's going a little crazy. There's some questions about how effective he's going to be in a 3-4. Yes, I know he played 3-4 in college, but this isn't college. He's definitely more suited for the 4-3. The guy is too small for the 3-4, doesn't really have any pass rush moves other than pure speed around the edge and he's not that good against the run. I don't see how on earth you can say he's our 3rd best defensive player.

 

I wonder how Tom Brady feels about this trade down. He's one of the greatest QB's of all time and he's getting nothing out of this years draft to help him. Good job he's 28 eh.

 

A little early to say that. Only 2 of the WR's are off the board and the Pats weren't in any position to get Tavon Austin, nor would he be a good fit anyway with Amendola there already. The Pats can still draft a WR or two.

 

since when is 6-2 245 small? timmons is smaller. carter, spence, and foote are smaller. you watch the games he played and he just shows up. he makes plays in the big games and doesnt disappeare. maybe i should have said it different. he may not be the 3rd best now but i bet by december he will be.

 

The knock on him is he's too small to play 3-4 OLB. It's not like I'm making this up, that is the scouting report on the guy.

 

Where are you getting this from? Everything I have seen says the opposite, with some sources saying we are exactly the scheme he would be good for. Additionally he's bigger than James Harrison: 6'2" 245lbs vs 6' 242lbs.