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People are freaking out over Kaleb Johnson's slow start

Discussion in 'Steelers Talk' started by steelersrule6, Aug 14, 2025.

  1. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    By the way, Najees best ypc was 4.1.

    Bus had:
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    4.8

    He played 13 years to Harris 4 and his final seasons dragged him under 4.0. But other than that, yeah good comparison :rolleyes:
     
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  2. Steelersfan43

    Steelersfan43 Well-Known Member

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    And Bettis was the best short yards back in his era!

     
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  3. steelersrule6

    steelersrule6 Well-Known Member

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    Bettis also played behind a better OL :shrug:
     
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  4. steelersrule6

    steelersrule6 Well-Known Member

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    It's not as laughable as you claiming Kaleb is better than Najee after playing two preseason games :facepalm::facepalm:.
     
  5. jeh1856

    jeh1856 Im a happy camper

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    Put this up on the wall in your moms basement

    You can kiss it at night

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  6. forgotten1

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  7. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    It’s called projection :facepalm::facepalm::facepalm:
     
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  8. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    Exactly. It may be the silliest thing I have ever seen said here. Thats serious serious fanboy vibes.

    Harris was a complete disappointment as a first round pick and people here acting like hes a HOF.
     
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  9. HeinzMustard

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    Definitely not good value for a first round pick. Not a complete whiff like Cleveland did with Trent Richardson.... but Harris is good enough to be #2 RB in the NFL for at least 4 more years.

    In defense of Steelers, Etienne was picked right after Harris... and he wasn't much better.
     
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  10. S.T.D

    S.T.D Well-Known Member

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    Have to give You that. I can't remember a really bad OL while He was with us. Maybe with the Rams, I can't remember.
     
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  11. S.T.D

    S.T.D Well-Known Member

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    Come on , let's not act like he sucks. He has played behind some terrible OLs, and with some terrible Qbs, to say any different is a lie. You know it, I know it, and everyone that watches football knows it. No He is not the Bus, but about 97% of the RBs that come through the NFL are not of the Bettis caliber.
     
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  12. jeh1856

    jeh1856 Im a happy camper

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    I think there are only two members in that fan club

    And one still thinks the Steelers should have used the fifth year option :dontknow:

    LMFAO
     
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  13. Blast Furnace

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    I agree, if he were a 3rd rd pick no one would be saying anything about him but as a first rd pick, you have to hit a HR.

    Many people here were against taking a RB in the first rd and they were right. I honestly can’t remember where I stood on drafting Harris other than the fact I liked him better than Etienne.
     
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  14. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    See my reply to Mustard.
     
  15. S.T.D

    S.T.D Well-Known Member

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    I've always thought it was stupid to take a Rb in the 1st, but once he was taken, I was behind him 100%, and I still think he was a better overall rb than Warren, but now I hope, and pray I was wrong. Steelers fan 1st, and foremost. So I need Warren to be way better
     
  16. jeh1856

    jeh1856 Im a happy camper

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    At draft time for a RB I liked his name
     
  17. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    I was a Harris defender for the first 2 seasons. Very likable player, plays hard, good interviews, would be a good face for the franchise. I used to make the same arguments for him that you guys are and the same arguments against Warren that his detractors do but after a while I came to believe I was wrong and had it backwards.
     
  18. steelersrule6

    steelersrule6 Well-Known Member

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    I wasn't trying to say Najee is as good as Bettis, I just pointed out one stat not a one for one comparison :rolleyes:.
     
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  19. Blast Furnace

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    It’s still a silly comparison for reason already outlined.
     
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  20. steelersrule6

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    Harris didn't have a good OL his whole time with the Steelers, let's see how the current RBs do when there are no holes to run through :shrug:.
     
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  21. jeh1856

    jeh1856 Im a happy camper

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    Putting Harris in the same sentence with Bettis was a mistake

    Try backpedaling all you want
     
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  22. SGSteeler

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    Not at all. You just said he struggled and his second preseason game was more efficient than nearly 3/4's of Najee's starts... And if it takes 16 carries a game and a fully healthy 17 game season for Johnson to barely get 1,000 yards, I won't be that impressed with him either.

    Nothing matters until the real games start anyways. Besides, Warren is the starting back.
     
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  23. SGSteeler

    SGSteeler Well-Known Member

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    Warren played with the same line Harris did and was more efficient.. I am sure this year's backs will be just fine.
     
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  24. SGSteeler

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    The whole league was unimpressed. In a league where Rhamondre Stevenson and DeAndre Swift can get multi year contracts at $8m+, Najee gets $5m on a one year deal.

    The option was affordable but still higher than market price for his abilities. It was $2million more than all 32 NFL teams were willing to pay for him. I don't understand the whole conversation. It's not like he's complete garbage.... He just isn't that useful. It's not impressive that he got 1,000 yards every year in a 17 game season where he was essentially force fed opportunities... It is, however, quite impressive that with his high usage that he was never hurt. Gotta give that one to him.
     
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  25. steelersrule6

    steelersrule6 Well-Known Member

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    It's ridiculous for you to mention his YPC in a preseason game to try and dig at Najee, nobody is game planning in a preseason game and he's going against scrubs :eek:.
     
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