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KC's OL has been not great for a couple of seasons. They had serious LT problems last season.

 

The depth at ILB should be good this year.

 

RB1 before the season is over

 

Interesting that Washington has lost 10-15 lbs, given that he’s been used primarily as a blocker. Wonder if they see a bigger receiving role for him this season.

 

People keep missing the point about Mahomes.

No one is saying he is so far gone he is now fallible. However, to say he is the absolute juggernaut he once was is simply not true. Again, FootballAnalyst and others have alluded to it already not just before the Super Bowl but after it as well.


In short?! Mahomes and the Chiefs will likely be in the Super Bowl again. To place them automatically in for 2026 there though shouldn't be the case.

 

My point exactly.


Mahomes isnt why the Chiefs will no longer be a shoe in all on his own. Whats around him is. That said, while he is still the best, the gap has gotten considerably smaller in 2024. Whos to say that gap wont continue to shrink in 2025?!


Again, 2024 was his worst year. That isnt to say no one thinks of him less. All I am saying is that Mahomes is not nearly as invincible as he once was. A major force for certain but not as much of a force of nature as he was during 2019-2022.

 

Great replacement for whatever his name was last year

 

Rooting for Mt. Washington!

Would love for him to become a reliable Receiving weapon.

 

The Chiefs have never been head and shoulders better than everyone else, even in the years they won the Super Bowl(I don't consider the chiefs as the best team on paper in the last 3 years but still been in the super bowl in every year and won 2 of those)... I mean, watch their 2023 regular season, it was awful to watch at times with so many drops by their receiver, it was comical at times... But in the end, they still found a way to win.

That doesn't mean the Chiefs will be in the AFC Title Game every year like they were every year so far in the Mahomes era, but they'll always be a threat when they have Mahomes, like the Pats were with Brady.

 

Arthur Smith loves tight ends, but he didn't use Washington much even though the receiving core was weak. At least give Washington some opportunities in the red zone.

 

It would be nice if Metcalf showed up to work with Mason at the OTAs, with that big contract he got he better show up next week for mandatory mini-camp.

 

He will

 

nice. glad to have him back.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nf...S&cvid=85367fa880c64b3da5041730cd0346c7&ei=25

 

Wilson is going to be a weapon this season.

 

Washington moving well after the weight loss.

 

SB's are a team award, not a player one. We aren't talking about whether or not the Bengals, Chiefs, Bills, and Ravens are the best teams.... we are talking about whether or not their QB's are individually the best 4 QB's in the NFL. It is quite possible at this moment in time.

You mention LJ being "nowhere near as good as Ben from 2004-2011", but Ben from 2004 to 2011 was nowhere near as good as Ben from 2011 to 2022. Just because his teams won SB's while he was a younger player doesn't mean he was a better player. Not even close. Ben was a far superior individual player later in his career, but his teams just didn't win. Some of that had to do with Ben having to carry the team because the teams were a bit weaker (and he wasn't able to do it), but some of it is just bad luck too.

Jalen Hurts is probably the top NFC QB that has a shot... Stafford is really good and has been for a long time. Daniels has a shot to get there eventually. But it is hard to say that there is anyone in the league better than the 4 mentioned QB's at the moment.

 

Bottom line: Ben was a much better Quarterback IN THE PLAYOFFS from 2004-2011. I don't care about Ben's gawdy regular season statistics from 2012-2021. Jalen Hurts wasn't even in the MVP race last year and he now owns a Lombardi. So, I don't agree with your premise or your opinion.

And another thing.... Ben had 2 back to back 6TD games in 2014. What does he have to show for it besides MAYBE a first ballot HOF-bid? He didn't win MVP that year, much less a Super Bowl.... and Steelers lost to the Vick Jets a week after he made this epic accomplishment.

 

How come they never seem to actually run a route like that in a game

 

That first catch though....ugggh he looked like he was fighting the ball into his hands.

 

I'll admit I'm as bad as anyone else about getting hyped up on a guy's potential but lately I don't know I've kinda soured on the practice and have gotten a bit salty as well. I see these clips and wonder how people can gage what the player will do from running routes and catching balls in shorts. I'm with you where are these crisp clean routes on gameday?

 

He was never going to win the MVP because there were 3 QB's that were simply better than him in his time (Brady/Manning and eventually Rodgers). Brees even had some crazy seasons throwing it a million times in the Sean Payton system. There just wasn't an avenue for him to win MVP, even when he led the NFL in passing yards in 2018 or had a huge season in 2014. It just wasn't going to happen. Which is fine. He played in an era known for having the best QB play in the history of the game and he was a perennial top 5 player at the position. He's a first ballot HOF QB and deserves to be. He just wasn't better than a few of the guys that played in the same era.

As for the playoffs, you're wrong. Ben was just as good (if not better) of a player post 2011 in the post season, and the statistics prove it. The only metric in which Ben was truly "better in the playoffs" was team wins... which is a team stat, not an individual one. You don't have to agree with the premise of my opinion, but I hold that opinion based on statistical fact.

2004-2011 (14 GP)
20 TD/ 12 INT 225 YPG - 4.8 TD% and 2.9 INT% 24.8 PPG

2011-2022 (9 GP)
16TD/ 11 INT 314 YPG - 4.2 TD% 2.4 INT% 24 PPG

These stats just show that Ben threw for 90 yards a game more (partially due to him throwing it more, of course), but he took care of the ball better (which is mainly where people knock Ben's postseason performances post-SB's), and threw a slight amount less TD's per attempt (which is to be expected when you throw it more). So essentially Ben threw more, took care of the ball better, scored the same amount of PPG and did it while putting up 90 more yards a game..... Where is it that Ben was so much worse? It's just not a factual statement. Now, I can say that I wish Ben performed better post 2011 in the playoffs, because he was so good that the expectation was that he would play better than he did. But he was better than he was 2004-2011. He performed better. Our team just wasn't as good, so it was largely on his shoulders to win the game (which he didn't do a ton of post 2011).

What needs to be understood is the performance of the defense. from 2004-2011 we gave up 22.5 PPG in the post season. From 2012-2022 we gave up 36.3 PPG. Essentially 2 TD's a game worse. THAT is why we didn't win as much since 2011, not because Ben performed so much worse. The QB gets a lot of credit for team accolades, but basing someone's level of "good" solely on whether or not the team won postseason games is just wrong. Winning in the post season requires more than just good QB play (and the QB can play well and still lose games).

 

Look no further than the horrible INTs thrown in XLV vs Packers, vs Jaguars, vs Browns from 2011-21 playoff games. He only had 1 really bad INT in the post seasons of 2004-2008.... the pick in SBXL vs Seahawks. With the exception of the Seahawks SB game, those were all LOSSES. And Ben shoulders a lot of blame for those losses... even if the defense wasn't quite up to standard. I can also argue that Ben had his best O line and array of weapons in the Killer Bs in the playoff game vs Jaguars and laid a huge egg. Likewise with AFC Championship vs Patriots the year before. Had Ben played better in XLV... he would have 3 rings instead of 2. Packers depleted, injured defense was able to hold Roethlisberger in check... and that game wasn't as close as the score. Rodgers was hitting WRs in the chest all game long... and there were drops on 3rd downs.