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Metcalf vs pickens drama

Discussion in 'Steelers Talk' started by Mashburn, May 7, 2025 at 1:18 PM.

  1. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    Just as I thought, you have no idea what the definition is of either of those. And thanks for summing up what I already suspected of you by mocking AI. You’re one of those that makes up their own facts.

    White Knighting is dudes defending women online. You werent even close. I dont even fit your silly definition of it. Mash and I were discussing Metcalfs behavior, what board member did I show up to defend. :facepalm:
     
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  2. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    FFS none of this fits locker room cancer. Whats wrong with you man.
     
  3. TomlinW/O#7

    TomlinW/O#7 Well-Known Member

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    I actually really enjoy debating. A message board is usually a perfect venue for that. It's the off-season. The draft is over and nothing else to do but debate the "what ifs". If everyone agreed with everyone else I suspect there wouldn't be much discussion going on. I would, however, rather have a debate rooted in at least a bit of fact based opinion than someone simply saying "you're wrong and I'm right because I said so." That is essentially what happened in this thread. I'm gonna lean into that mentality even single time.
    If I get labeled by certain veteran individuals as a troll for a contrary take, it would mean less than nothing to me.
     
  4. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    No he doesn’t have a history of slowing down and having the ball knocked out of his hands. He did it once and it was a stupid play. Like when Leon did it in the SB.
     
  5. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    Below is your first response to me, a conversation you jumped into the middle of.

    Project much? Methinks it is you that is obsessed with being right and wrong.

     
  6. jeh1856

    jeh1856 Snoozing

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    That’s nice
     
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  7. TomlinW/O#7

    TomlinW/O#7 Well-Known Member

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    I'm not mocking AI. I'm mocking you for using AI to defend your opinion, without a shread of facts, on a completely subjective matter. We're not debating the answer to an equation. This is like you and I debating which woman is more beautiful, and you ask AI and it picks your woman. That you think a computer generated opinion is anything other than just another opinion is funny.
    It's 2025. There are "dudes" running to the aid of "dudes" to defend them online everywhere. This message board is littered with them. The term is applicable given the behavior, not the gender. It's a metaphor sir. It's an example of the behavior that's exhibited here. You are not a literal maiden and individuals coming to your aid in the debate are not literal knights in shining armor. You're aware of that, right?
    I can provide the Websters dictionary definition of "metaphor" if you like. I know you're a big fan of definitions.
     
  8. TomlinW/O#7

    TomlinW/O#7 Well-Known Member

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    Thank you!
     
  9. TomlinW/O#7

    TomlinW/O#7 Well-Known Member

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    It's ironic that you highlight only 2 words of my post, while completely dismissing the entirety of the rest it, to somehow invalidate my take.

    Meanwhile, your response to me originally was exactly only 2 words. And I'm projecting!! Lol.This is truly comical.

    You do recognize this, yes?
     
  10. Bubbahotep

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    Speculation by Breer is that the Steelers did NOT want to deal with Pickens late in the year when talk of an extension might start up. Pickens already took an overt amount of coaching effort to keep in line without the added factor of a contract. There is no way the Steelers were going to extend him, regardless of the kind of season he might have, and they didn't want every PC ending in answering the same question.
     
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  11. TomlinW/O#7

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    The thought of securing guaranteed compensation for GP now over speculated compensation after this year I suppose I can understand. I can also understand the desire to cut the "cancer" out before it has a chance to spread. Although, I think that train left the station already.
    It's the timing that does not make sense to me. Trading for Metcalf, in hindsight, does not make sense now. He's a talent, but is he enough without a skill like GP on the other side. Metcalf also brings his own brand of "debatable" baggage in my opinion. The QB1 spot is a huge question mark. This offense is not better now, I don't think there is much of a debate about that. If the Steelers interested in winning now, why not see a year of these 2 guys together? If they are rebuilding for the future or trying to change the culture, why trade for Metcalf?
     
  12. AskQuestionsLater

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    :eek:



    This makes the 2018 Steelers Drama look like kids playing kickball on the playground!
     
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  13. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    :lolol: My man here thinks computers are witchcraft. Clearly have a huge lack of understanding and capabilities of AI.

    Like I said, you make up your own facts and definitions, white knighting doesn’t remotely mean that.
     
  14. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    Don’t hurt yourself with that mental gymnastics routine.
     
  15. TomlinW/O#7

    TomlinW/O#7 Well-Known Member

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    Asking AI if DK Metcalf will be or is the headache that George Pickens was or is, and using it's answer to claim fact is ridiculous. It's a subjective matter. Doesn't matter if it's AI, you, myself or anyone else. You're not any more of an authority on the dynamics of AI than anyone else here.
    Try this one. Ask your AI chat bot what the most delicious food to eat. Bet it gives you an answer. That answer will not be a fact either. Again, it's a subjective question.
    So you do need the definition of metaphor I see.
    Metaphor:
    A figure of speech in which a word or phrase literally denoting one kind of object or idea is used in place of another to suggest a likeness or analogy.
    Now there are some other words in there that you may want to look up as well. You keep saying I don't know the definition of things or that I'm making it up, but you keep contradicting yourself. I said the "white knighting " that goes on here, was represented metaphorically by me. It was used like a metaphor. I also stated that you were not literally a "fair maiden" and individuals coming to coming to rescue you in this thread are not literally "knights".
    In other words, I used the term "white knighting" metaphorically.
    You know, like a M E T A P H O R
    I think reading comprehension is not your strongest skill set.
     
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  16. TomlinW/O#7

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    :shrug:

    Pot meet kettle.
     
  17. jeh1856

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    Just when you think the reach the bottom of the hole they get out a shovel
     
  18. jeh1856

    jeh1856 Snoozing

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    Just out of curiosity do you talk to AI because no one else will
     
  19. Mashburn

    Mashburn Well-Known Member

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    So what was locker room cancer of Pickens? I don't need your opinion, I need the articles.
     
  20. Vox Ferrum

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    Not sure it says much, except they know what they have/had is not working as a unit and it was time to change direction. It would be nice to see that here, setting in mediocrity or a notch above has gotten us no where. Filling specific spots and hoping for lightning, thinking we are a guy to two away has brought the same result. Not saying to tank, but go with that you have and see the reality of your position. Painful for sure, but getting 7 wins instead of 10 is not the end of the world, it might be the catalyst to get the right pieces in place.
     
  21. Mashburn

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  22. Mashburn

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    If dude doesn't get his numbers.
    - he will get whiny
    - these boards will get more whiny than what Pickens days were.
     
  23. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    Not an expert but sure have a better handle on it than you do. It searches probably every single article about every incident Metcalf has had and since it doesnt make up its own definition like you do, it’s relatively easy to determine he doesnt meet the label of locker room cancer. It’s not as subjective as your silly example.
     
  24. Vox Ferrum

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    Do not have it in writing, and with anything you have to take it from the source and see if it fits. Dulac was on Dan Patrick and said Tomlin had lost patience, the on the field stuff was a mixture of great and bad, but within the organization he would be late for or just blow off meetings, within the locker rooms other players wanted him gone. After getting DK, they knew there would be no 2nd contract and were actively trying to move him, despite any comments contrary to that. Also was stated in another interview that while they did not feel he was a bad kid, all the things involved, what was mentioned, the on field antics, the possibilities of going into the season with him on his last year was more than enough reason to seek a trade.

    This was something watched over from deep within and when the season was over they moved to change direction, he has a chance to cash in with a good year in Dallas, will he do it?
     
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  25. Blast Furnace

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    These are not examples of being a cancer. That is the part you cannot grasp. By your standards every player is a cancer to some degree then.

    But keep telling yourself that DK is like Pickens just like TJ didnt post a picture on his Instagram.
     

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