Dan the man is back!

i love dan but i think the ben pick was a no-brainer wasnt it? I didnt think anyone wanted anyone else

 

cowher didn't want ben.

 

oh ok. i always thought cowher wanted him. if i recall right the pick was made in seconds

 

This is what I was gonna post.

 

I've heard that they didn't draft Marino because he supposedly had some drug problems but it's always been suspected that Miami put that out there to make his stock fall so they could get him. I don't know if that's true but there are people that have said it. Seems to me like they would know what problems Marino had since he played in their back yard though.

 

It was said that Cowher wanted Rivers....once he was gone he wanted to just go with Tommy Maddox and draft Stacy Andrews to protect him.

HACK

 

I think Cowher would've been wrong about Rivers though because he's not a very mobile guy (and I'm being generous by putting it that way) and if our line had sunk to the level it has in these past few years Rivers would probably be in the nursing home by now.

 

I sometimes wonder what our drafting direction would have been had Cowher somehow stayed in post and stayed hungry. My sense of it is we would have drafted OL rather than flash players, continued to stick with the running game, and sunk to mediocrity. A lot of the shift to our passing game happned because of Ben's development.

Obviousy, too many what ifs there... but am I being unfair to Cowher here?

 

Man this is so weird to say but it sounds like I'm glad cowher left if all of what u guys say is true

 

Tomlin Era's right, according to Dan Rooney's book. They weren't going to pick Ben, and Dan just couldn't live with missing out on a chance for a QB like that.

 

I don't think you're being unfair to Cowher in the sense that we probably would have drafted that way and probably would have kept to the old school approach. Whether or not that would have put us in to mediocrity is hard to say. But we do know that football has became a passing game. Power running would be basically dead if not for Adrian Peterson and Marshawn Lynch. Also Alfred Morris can pound it but everyone seems to be looking for a Chris Johnson type back these days. We all assume that Todd Haley is more old school than BA and I think he is in the sense that he doesn't go deep as much but Haley threw it like crazy this year. I feel like all the teams using the short passing game areu basically calling that their running game.

 

I think the quarterback position was always an after thought for Cowher, he was more interested in running back steven jackson at the 04 combine than any of the QBs, he knew Bettis was in his last two years and was injured a lot so jackson was his focus: The consensus was the 3 top QBs in the draft would be gone before we picked at 11, especially with cleveland picking at number 8, they blew it by drafting winslow and ben fell into our lap, I still think if the browns had drafted ben we would have drafted jackson in that draft at 11....

 

i agree with Diamond