Reflecting on recent personnel moves

Anytime!

 

Seriously? I don't know that they'd throw the rook into every sub package straight away, but the strength of many in this class - definitely Grant and Harmon - is the blend of size, strength, and athleticism. These aren't two-down guys.

 

Kenneth Grant sure as hell isn't either.


Worst case he is has one or two Pro Bowlers. Best case he is a turbocharged Casey Hampton; arguably a Top Five NT of all time.

 

Which is why I doubt he makes it to 21

 

One can dream.

 

Ok I did some homework and in general it appears teams do not bring in prospects for 30 visits if they already met with them at the combine

https://walterfootball.com/ProspectMeetingsByTeam2025.php

 

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In all likelihood, neithet Harmon or Grant make it to 21. That is what I am operating under. Both will be Pro Bowl caliber players. That leaves us with Nolen; someone that me and @KnoxVegasSteel agree that possesses the biggest bust potential of any Round One IDL.

 

True.


However, other teams, like the Steelers, do their best to unearth everything there is to know about these men. That isnt to say that they are 100% all the time. It does illustrate though that the team has scouted these players throughly and will not second guess their decisions; something other teams do more often than they should.


Jacksonville is such a case. The Cardinals under Kliff Kingsbury are another. Bryce Young hasnt been aided by Carolinas consistent swings and misses either. Even the Colts, a team that usually does draft well, has not been well in fully investigating their players; Kwity Paye being at the top suprisingly enough.

 

i'm just saying who are you taking off the field in 60% of those sub packages? that is a lot of investment to not be playing full time.

 

I like the kid, but I think you're a bit in the stars with this one.... I think he is a lot like Dontarri Poe, which is great, but Poe was a two time PB player and I don't think Poe is his floor. He takes FAR too many plays off (on an already light snap count) for me to think he is a "sure thing". Nice player for sure, really good athlete for his frame and does a lot well. But we have to unlock quite a bit still for him to be he player you think his floor is.

He could be a great player and someone on the level of an Ndomukong Suh in terms of impact, but he could be an unmotivated two down run plugger (and a huge disappointment) as well.

 

You just rotate them. Sometimes it would be Grant (if that is who we take), sometimes Benton, and sometimes Heyward. 70-80% snap count for a DL is quite high and you want to be rotating these guys a bit so they stay fresh. Plus, we can't expect Cam to have the highest snap count forever. If we want him to make it the next two seasons, having a lower snap count should help immensely.

 

Watched him play in Knoxville in high school and he was a man amongst boys where he easily dominated due to his size, strength, and speed. Just didn't see the work ethic at that level or college. IMO seemed lazy and not willing to put in the work. He made a chunk from NIL. Maybe more money would motivate him? I don't know. Of course I could be very wrong. I would wait until day 2 and grab Omar Norman-Lott for interior DL rather than waste a 1st round pick on Nolen. Again, just my humble opinion.

 

Rodgers is almost as old as you. That’s old.

 

I disagree.


His pass rush potential is a lot greater than others are giving it credit for. As for his Run Stopping?! He is already among the best.

 

Read that Nolen didn't work out at his Pro Day. Do not know why. Doesn't sound like someone they should be consider for the 1st round if this true. Really cannot afford to whiff on any pick let alone your 1st rounder.

 

Yeah he has potential for sure… it’s whether or not he gets there. He’s a quality athlete for his size and a good run defender when he wants to be. My only argument was that it’s hard for me to put a floor so high for him when his biggest flaw seems to be consistent effort (hot and cold motor). A guy with Dontarri Poe downside and all time great upside goes in the top 5. Grant isn’t. But that doesn’t mean I don’t think he can be good (I like him best of the DL that might be available to us).

 

I didnt know that. Really unfortunate. Maybe he was injured or not at 100%. IMO, it sounds like someone who is afraid of underperforming and causing his draft stock to go down. Which could easily happen as I believe his current draft stock is way overvalued. So that might be smart from a business perspective but something I would seriously question if I'm the buyer. Definitely a red flag.

 

All very good points. TN was very deep at IDL last year and rotated like 8 guys in there on a regular basis. What I like about Norman-Lott beyond size and strength is he has a mean streak and doesnt take any ****. Also seems like a hard worker and great teammate. Your question about his ability to endure the long NFL season is a good one.

Not an answer to the question but some context on why TN goes so deep and rotates so much on the DL. Heupel's offense is designed to go fast and score fast (although it didn't always play out that way last season). So if that TN offense is doing what it is designed to do, the TOP is easily 2 to 1 causing the TN defense to spend a lot more time on the field than the O. They've got to have fresh bodies on the DL to stop the run inside and disrupt the opposing O. So, I would think his number of snaps was more by design than his ability.

 

Here we see JEH and A-A-ron back in elementary school.

 

Been a while since I check in here. I must say I am very puzzled as well. Less than a month away from draft day and we've got HUGE gaping holes to fill. Basically NO QB, NO RB, a need to draft Cam's replacement....., never been happy with our OL or CB play. Drafting around the never changing 20th slot every year...... it's hard to get excited at this point about the direction of the team. Maybe Colbert was really the Man, and Omar is struggling? I dunno, but it's painful to watch.

 

Colbert's last several drafts weren't good, which put Khan in a hole coming out of the gate. The last two drafts look better, though we need to see how Jones does this year. For me, Khan's issues have been with his acquisitions outside of the draft. At times he seems aggressive and nimble, at others overly conservative.

Though I do wonder if some of the inconsistency in aggression comes from above, since it's a historically it's been a fairly conservative club in that regard.

 

I wouldn't be upset with Hampton at #21. He is big and has lots of speed.

 

Its Tomlin and his nepotism. His been around too long, has too much power, plus ARII may not be a football guy like his dad. They need a change in the HC and staff.