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as he should be. i do like him. hopefully healed fully by the start of the season. i liked roberts too. just not enough room for them all.

 

Agreed. Assuming Holcomb is healthy, I assume we will see some sort of rotation of Queen, Holcomb, and Wilson with Roberts playing elsewhere.

 

Kinda like gargantuan.

 

How much of the cap can you roll over to the next year

 

All of it. It's a requirement of the CBA that teams use 89% of their cap over a four-year period. The league, 95%. Most teams enter the playing season with a buffer for injury signings and/or performance bonuses paid at the end of the year.

 

I would say we have botched the FA period.

 

i want anyone who can help us win in the playoffs --I do not like losing every year.SPEND THE MONEY

 

It's not if they're spending it, it's how.

 

They haven't lost more than they won since 2003

 

He works for Lexus. 20-0 or bust.

 

no<---- I mean playoffs...SUPERBOWLS that stuff. You know--- what we are supposed to be trying to win. Not Mr. 500 or better-- with everyone down to Tomlin and the Steelers saying yay--- Good job. No ---it isn't .They WIN.OR they suck and suck and suck. And we get fooled over and over about how great they are.B.S.BUT HECK I'm for it

 

As a result of the previous 2 Free Agency periods and drafts, I would be inclined to assign Omar to Cap Management in his role and give Weidl an opportunity.
I just don't think Omar is a strong GM. He's not pushing Mike Tomlin nor challenging him. I think Weidl will.

 

Not really out of the norm. Most teams have 10-12, and the Steelers are still looking for a starting quarterback.

 

I'm not certain Khan would stay through that sort of demotion and this simply isn't the sort of move the Steelers like to make.

 

True.... but it is me. I'm just not on the Omar bus. I am open to a change of opinion if he suddenly made some good decisions. I do believe in a learning curve.
But currently, signing old or failed QB's, and a ton of Wal-Mart players to support one big move just isn't a recipe for success.
He most certainly has the right not to accept that, but as an owner I'd have the right to not care.
This isn't the Steeler way, I know. Maybe it is time to grow a pair?

 

karl i think it all boils down to art2 and MT. i'm not sure they have let the two guys that should be bringing in the talent to do what they want. omar and weidl. we are not at a level of post chuck noll to bill cowher days, we are at pre chuck noll days. he wants to make MT succeed so badly he's blind to the overall health of this team and it's decline under him. he is part of the problem. art 2 is not even close to the chief or dan as an owner. he just happens to have the name.

 

That's an interesting take and it does all fall on the entire franchise, bottom to top.
And it is noted that they are not a loser franchise - though they can't win in post season. They have to get that monkey off their back.
But I think people have a distorted view of:
a. The role that a real GM has.
b. An overblown concept of Tomlin's powers.

In regards to the GM role, this is quite likely a fault of ownership. In short and generally speaking, the GM is the owner's CEO, the guy he trusts to make football decisions.
I don't think Art is a world class loser like Nutting who beyond any shadow of doubt should be removed by baseball as an owner.
Not having a losing season since what, 2003? distorts that sense of success. We are suffering through any 1-16 seasons, where the seasons over by game 5, crushing all hope every year.

It's hard for me to fathom Mike Tomlin thinking "get me DK Metcalf and I can win, with no QB"
I do have issues with how he addresses his coaching staff. Canada was a no-brainer and Austin should have been out this year.
If for nothing else but to install a different system that forces change and makes them less predictable.

The view from the owners box: I have to wonder, as an owner I am sitting in the box and watching Kansas City maul my team. Does it ever occur to them that 'I need a QB and some players like that to beat Kansas City.' There's a few owners that probably think that. Right now I am thinking of Buffalo who I do see making efforts to beat that KC team. (there are others but just an example)

So yes, top down they've got to get the wheels moving.
I would agree that Ownership needs to either fix this front office bunch by taking the hand cuffs off them or if they are in fact lackluster, then get rid of them.
In turn, the right GMs would be looking at this coaching staff and figuring out if they are now part of the problem or part of the solution and make the call to owner.

 

is the owner listening to that call? that's where i think the disconnect is. i think the legacy of dad's name as a rooney and the rule which is taken to a different meaning here than what it was intended as, clouds some of the judgement of this rooney. not just MT either. omar as well. do they trump team betterment? as long as the butts are sitting in the seats and buying the tickets does it matter to him? where does the importance lie with art?

 

Tomlin has more power than all but a few coaches in the league. The longer ANY coach statys, the more power they accumulate. A coach does not stick around if his input is that of rookie year every year. Eventually they are tasked with improving incrementally and any coach will push back I can improve this team, but I need more players that I see as a good fit for the team and schemes.

Power is inherently intertwined with tenure. Usually you don't get long tenure being mediocre, but Tomlin has unlocked Teflon-mode AND perma-Shield buff and he's able to stick around producing garbage, year after year.

Khan is probably a bit hamstrung, able to make some moves he prefers, while being overridden on others.

As for going and getting a good QB, if it were only that easy. As for spending on one, cap or assets, ask a few other teams that broke the bank if they'd like a mulligan. For every move that turns out well regarding a starting QB trade or FA contract, there are 4 more than can really hamstring a team for years due to cap constraints or reduced draft assets. If you don't have a QB, the only ones you can trade for or sign are some other teams unwanted, past-glory QBs. VERY rare a team will trade an in-prime, franchise QB and when they do its several first round picks, second round picks and basically you're now in CAP hell and no ways to improve your team for a couple of years, so that stud QB, that magically came available, had better be as good as ever or that trade is a bust in a huge way.

Anyway, QB options were and will be limited, until if and when they draft in top 5, OR they keep taking a draft pot-shot at a upside QB with obvious holes in their college game, until they hit on their poor-mans Brady or Purdy in round 3, 4 or 5. It will happen, question is, how many years until then?

I am for signing Rodgers, assuming he wants to be here a bit more than retirement. If he retires, cool, then we MUST draft a QB and maybe two of them, round 3 and 6 maybe, and see how two rookies and Rudolph shake out by the end of the year. It's not the best solution, but choices are few right now, and not just for the Steelers, other tams have same struggle (always 5 or 6 teams perma-hunting a franchise QB...eventually they all get one, but for some it may take a decade to do it).

 

I don't disagree at all. Tomlin does have some weight as you say. My point is that there is a distorted view of how much.
If anything I point to the contrast of a Kansas City Organization as opposes to ours.
Andy has a lot of weight there too but don't think he doesn't answer to someone.
Buffalo has the same, though McDermott's seat should be feeling some heat. (not critical mass, just warm)
I'm not a fan of Omar at the moment. Though I give some leeway due inexperience. He could change my mind.... I don't think he's the worst GM, just mid-pack...

 

It's hard to imagine any owner satisfied with mediocrity.
Well, until I met Bob Nutting.
Yes, I would agree with you.

 

Looking at the last 6 teams salary caps. 5 of them could beat us. So if we don’t know how to recruit that money means nothing.

 

I don't think it is about lacking the guts to make moves. Hell, most of the terrible owners in the league have the guts to make moves. They just make the wrong ones. Rooney is applying the same philosophy that has worked for his family for decades.

 

we have around 22 mil. invested in the o-line starters and over 10 mil. of that is in one guy. the next highest is a guy with 4.5 mil.. they have to invest some more in this part of the team. we have about 4 mil. in 4 backups. this would put the whole o-line at around 26 mil. yes a lot of guys are on first contracts but still this is not a lot of known commodities. could easily sink a season. he's OK, he might work out, he has shown some flashes, hope he gets better, hope he stays healthy............. not a very warm and fuzzy feeling from what has to be a strength. the D-line and it's backups equal around 84 mil. JMO.