Tell me about this 2025 QB class.

I love it when you stay in your lane of expertise with such posts.

 

If the Steelers go Dline in the 1st and Will Howard is still there in the second, they would be stupid to pass up on him. They have to be aggressive sometime when it comes to taking a QB. Next year you may be saying the same thing regarding early rounds Vs late rounds QB selections.

 

Fair enough and this where the faux competitiveness kills them, because they're always around 20. This is why you tear it down and start again. This is why you fire the HC that can't take the team over the top, especially after 18 years in the league. This is why you get the best coaches and co-ordinators you can, and you donlt hold onto **** coaches because their contract hasn't run down. You fire them.

The never had a losing season metric is total bull****, because it takes you nowhere in the playoffs, and nowhere in the draft. The Steelers are shooting themsleves in ther foot in too many areas, their recent 1st round draft pick is utterly abysmal. But like I said there's so much peripheral stuff they're not getting right, through being stubborn and preferring the comfort blanket of of 10-7 and having the same HC beyond all reason.

The Matt Canada debacle proved beyond any doubt that this team is totally lost and totally refuses to change.

Could this team develop a young QB anyway? I seriously doubt it.

To me, the best chance you have is get into the top 10 and take your shot in a good QB draft...if thast means tearing it down and accepting a couple of poor seasons so be it.

But what's The Steelers actual plan? Aaron Rodgers...

 

Do we have a 2nd,or you thinking we'd trade to get back in?

 

I honestly don’t know now that you mention it. They should try and get one though if QBs are available and they like them. Can’t just wait around forever while hoping to find a diamond in the rough. I don’t think I’ve even seen this team in such a bad positional need for a QB in a long time. We’ve had our roller coaster rides but this year it seems to have fallen deeper in need.

 

Cleverly, they traded away their second rounder to avoid failing such a test of stupidity.

I wonder if they don't plan to trade back into it. I didn't mind the Metcalf move, but it's a bad year to skip the second round. Too much talent at positions of need.

 

I was wondering where that second pick went.

 

Go away dipsh!t

 

Steelers could get the next Mahomes and we'd never know because he wouldn't be developed properly by Popcorn and staff. Living in fears.

 

PERIOD.


THE END.

 

They would be right to lose their minds. Howard is not a first-round pick. I'm not even sure he belongs in the third round.

 

If any GM drafted Howard in the first round they should be fired before they hang up the phone with him.

 

If they end up starting Rudolph they have a realistic shot to be picking somewhere between 12-15 next year. With their comps, they could easily navigate to the top 10. And also, if the 2026 QB class is less than hoped, the Steelers have a chance to load their rosters with starters all over the place given all their picks next year. If they find a castoff FA QB in 2026, it's possible they could make some noise in the post season with a strong team to support the QB. Look at what SF did with Purdy who suddenly looked average after losing his stars.

 

I agree with that...seems like a real **** show right now

 

I support the building of talent across the team. One of my criticisms with this offseason was not going after a few more impactful FAs they could have signed for 3-4 years. It would have affected the comp formula some, but proven players typically outweigh draft picks in value. Instead they made a splash with Metcalf, then laid up with released players and value signings, and are clinging onto the hope that Rodgers will be their QB in the fall. All to stockpile comp picks for 2026, none of which will produce a sure thing.

This type of half-measure is what keeps this club hovering around 8-10 wins each season.

 

No draft is a sure thing. But in any lottery, more picks equal more chances. The problem the Steelers (Kahn/Weidl) have right now is digging out from the half decade of poor drafts that Colbert/Tomlin had. Sure, you could buy your way out of it by signing FAs, expensive and almost as risky (see Larry O or M Fitzpatrick, or even Queen). Or you take the long road and draft them.

It takes 3 seasons to know whether a pick was 'right'. Colbert once said that the first three rounds are expected to eventually be starters in the league. This will be Kahn's 3rd draft season so this is the year to know whether the Jones, Porter, Benton picks are looking worthy of a second contract.

 

I consider that a potential part of their strategy as well. The lack of certainty there is where the comp picks actually get awarded, where they pick relative to moving up, who declares, do they turn out, etc.

QB is obviously the most important position, and I think it wise to keep an eye on potential strategy to get the best players, but comp picks are limited in what they do to help you move up (a third round comp is only ~100 points). It's not that I don't value them, I just think the FO has to leverage its salary cap position against the relative dearth of talent they've been able to develop from their drafts over the last six years.

It's a careful balance, I just think they're being a little too conservative in the face of other moves they've made.

 

The thing with the comp picks say you have three third round comp picks it would make it easier to part with your second-round pick in a trade package.

 

i keep hearing wait until next year's draft. I wouldn't stake everything on one draft to find a QB. The 2021 draft class was supposed to be the one to deliver top-tier quarterbacks, but it only proves how unpredictable that approach can be. If Jaxson Dart is available in the 1st round, I'd take the shot on him. But if he doesn't show clear signs of being 'the guy, I'd be ready to draft. another QB in 2026.

 

I ask again what do people have against Tom Arth and Arthur Wilson? They have both been here for only 1 year (2024) and it did look like Justin Fields was getting better under them last year.


I still believe that Sanders will go #2 to the Browns, and that is the real reason the Giants signed Wilson and Winston. Hoping the Steelers can get a QB they want in round 3.

My QB Room for 2025 (I love this room because all players can run the same game plan under Arthur Smith)
Aaron Rodgers
Mason Rudolph
Qwen Ewers
Skylar Thompson.

 

I don't know who Tom Arth and Arthur Wilson are. Never heard of these people.

Popcorn won't let Arthur Smith have Arians-esque control. Likewise with Austin on defense not having Lebeau-like autonomy.

 

i too think arth and smith could work out if they are allowed to work this system through without much input from MT. my QB room would look more like.

mason rudolph
kyle mccord
either will howard or tyler shough or seth hennigan.

i think all are fairly similar and capable of running this system and reading defenses with arth's help. similar capabilities of distributing the ball to our play makers. i think even ewers could fit but he would be under these guys.

putting in a less read option type system built for lamar jackson and more like one built for joe burrow. but make it our own.

i'm seeing they are trying to make it two different types of offense instead of playing to the strength of what we have under our noses. does that make sense? it
s like a piece mill offense. a little of this type and a little of that type with no direction for placing the coaches strengths in to play or the QB's for that matter.

 

That QB room wouldn't win more than 5 games but that isn't a bad thing. Having a top 5 pick in next years draft and with all of the comp picks we could really reshape the future of the team.