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Tell me about this 2025 QB class.

Discussion in 'Steelers Talk' started by 86WardsWay, Mar 21, 2025.

  1. 78steelers

    78steelers Well-Known Member

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    Why was that dumb. Griffin after second season was hurt often. Cousins can in and gave them solid play for young Qb. Cousins was the starter by the fourth year and put up stats that we have not seen since Ben. Original a 4th round pick his 3 years of starting play he earned the the team a 3rd round compensations pick. As for Griffin you run that chance when drafting a prospect high that still need a lot work on the basic of playing Qb
     
  2. TGH

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    Im not a fan of projects, like "tools" prospects, like Levis, Richardson, Milroe in this draft. I am fan of drafting good quarterbacks like Mason was when he was coming out, or Howard in this draft. Those QBs just needs starter snaps in the NFL, they are already good.
    With Steelers passing on Fields and Russ in free agency, and Rodgers deal dragging out looking less likely that it will get done, or if anything it may happen after the draft, it looks to me the Steelers are showing their cards, they will draft a QB. They are not really aggressive in free agency.
     
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  3. TGH

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    I don't know what work you are talking about. Rob Griffin did not need a lot of work. He was NFL ready to start when he was drafted. He just needed to run a season, adjust to playing against NFL defenses, learn to prepare on NFL schedule, get on the same page with the new team, but that's true for all rookies. They all need to adjust, run the circuit for the full season and offseason, get with the program.
    Actually, Cousins needed developemnt. He was indecisive, stiff, unsure, not having great offensive outputs in college, he needed development, but his time in college ran out.
     
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  4. Born2Steel

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    Big fan of Howard. Followed him all last season. Fans will lose their minds if we draft him at 21. Lol
     
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  5. mac daddyo

    mac daddyo Well-Known Member

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    i will say one thing about howard and i watched every game, he would push at times to make a play when he didn't have to and it resulted in things going badly. during the stretch run though he quit doing such and it was pretty impressive. it showed he could adjust. he didn't have to be the one to take over and make a play, he distributed the ball to the guys that were there to make the plays. that was and is his strength. if they keep him in his lane he could be a solid choice. so could a few others as well. :cool:
     
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  6. 86WardsWay

    86WardsWay Well-Known Member

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    I wouldn’t hate it if the Steelers took Howard at 21 because I don’t think he will be around when we draft in the second round. There are just too many teams looking for a quality starting QB this season. Many fans however will lose their minds though.
     
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  7. KnoxVegasSteel

    KnoxVegasSteel Well-Known Member

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    Is that you, Mason? Only one talking out your ass is you. Rudolph never was and never will be a starting caliber NFL QB. If you can't see that, then you just can't be helped. Colbert drafted/acquired one quality QB and missed on all the rest. For all of his success with personnel, he didn't do well at QB. The fact that Tomlin and company can't develop QBs probably contributed as well.
     
  8. TGH

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    How would you know who is a good quarterback? You would not even draft Ben from Miami of Ohio. But now you are stuck with Big Ben living in your head rent free. I got news for you, Ben's been retired for years and the Steelers need the starting quarterback, and you are not the one to opine on that because you have no idea how to get the starting quarterback.
     
  9. Michael E

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    Its not top heavy, so that is in our favor. Cam Ward and Sanders apparently considered a tier or two above, but hardly sure-fire franchise QBs. In a good QB draft, they'd be 4 and 5 on the list.

    I do like that QB3 -> QB8 are basically interchangeable depending on scouts take and team scheme.

    We should be able to get a mildly promising QB in any of round 3, 4 or 5.

    Personally, if Rodgers retires, I would draft TWO QBs, round 3 (or some trade back in round 1, to add a late 2nd or early 3rd) and round 6 or 7 (upside flier on a QB that slips or a small school QB with good tools/tape).

    You can't find the next QB if you don't draft them. Trading for one is almost impossible (and quite costly), so keep drafting them or UDFA one if you draft one and need to draft other positions, but have competition.

    Almost as important a GOOD QB coach that likes working with younger, coachable QB candidates, not one that likes 35 year old vets so their job is easy-peasy.
     
  10. Michael E

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    It's dumb if you spend a top 10 pick on one yes, but NOT dumb if you're drafting an upside project in round 3. You cannot have conviction on a QB past round 1, its just not possible or they wouldn't last till round 3. I can guarantee you Patriots had NO conviction about Brady in round 6 or 49ers on Purdy in round 7. A good feeling, maybe, conviction, heck no.
     
  11. TGH

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    Not necessarily. Patirots and Niners did not need a quarterback. Both teams had the starting quarterback at the time they drafted Brady and Purdy. Same thing with Colbert, he had the starting quarterback under contract who the team was committed to, for a run at SB. But at some point if you have a quarterback prospect ranked as the rookie starter, and he is there in later rounds, you may take him even though you are in a committment with the starter under contract. It may raise eyebrows with the team and fanbase, but a GM may not give two fks about that. Same thing with Jalen Hurts and the Eagles' GM.
     
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  12. HeinzMustard

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    Holy crap... I hope Steelers don't waste an early draft pick on QB. Rounds 4-7 is OK, don't care.... but please no 1st or 3rd round QB. Steelers need the best DT in round one... possibly CB in round 3.
     
  13. Trafalgar

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    I Don't understand how anyone is having trouble with the concept of drafting a QB in a better class than a bad class- like the class that gave us Kenny Pickett....

    Right, so I'm curious as to who this great QB is who will be available @ 20 or in RD 3?

    You're so certian we have to draft a QB this year come what may, then who are you drafting?
     
  14. Born2Steel

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    4 of the top 7 QBs listed in the '26 class just finished their freshman season. The 8th, his sophomore year. That's a lot of projected underclassmen coming into the draft early for '26 to be considered anything at this point. Also, one of the top QBs is Drew Allar which most fans on here don't want at all. I really have to question just how much 'better' the next class of QBs is actually gonna be.
    The Saints fans I'm around seem to really want Nussmeier though.
     
  15. Trafalgar

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    They shouldn't be drafting a QB this year, but drafting one in rounds 4-7 is like throwing your pick in the bin. A complete waste of time.
     
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  16. Steellamb86

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    I would guess they draft a DL in round 1 and then trade up into round 2 and take Howard. Just my thoughts.
     
  17. Brice

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    1 year. That is the Steelers experience with the OC and QB coach.

    Mike Tomlin and Art Rooney are to blame for last years QB room. Funny, in the 1st interview Arthur Smith gave, he said how much he was looking forward to working with Kenny Picket and Mason Rudolph. I've said this many time before, but I believe the Steelers would have been better off with Kenny and Mason in 2024 than the Sh!t Show of a QB room that Tomlin and Rooney brought in.
     
  18. Thor

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    You're looking at the forest, he's talking about the trees.

    What you're saying is that it's generally more desirable to draft from a better class. That's fine.

    What he's saying is just because a class is considered bad, it doesn't mean every QB in it is bad. Which is also fine.
     
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  19. KnoxVegasSteel

    KnoxVegasSteel Well-Known Member

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    STFU and get Rudolphs balls out ya mouth
     
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  20. HeinzMustard

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    Agree on drafting a QB this year. Steelers should wait until 2026 when the QB pool is much better quality. With that said, there's been some good QBs drafted in rounds 4-7.... recently Prescott and Purdy. Warner and Romo were good UDFAs. And we all know who was taken in round 6 in 2000.
     
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  21. Bubbahotep

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    You don't draft projects in Round 1. That's how you end up with a Broderick Jones. By the time he is playing even average, his 5th year option will be due.
     
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  22. Vox Ferrum

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    I myself do not think so, but if you snag him for a 7th rounder, even better a 25 7th, then you have 2 years left on his rookie contract, would that mean they concentrate on other needs in the draft and go forward with 2 years of him and MR, drafting a qb next year. Either way if you go r3d or 4th this year, unless you see something you feel you can develop I think you have to go QB next year. For me if your guy is there you pick him, if not throw a chicken bone to the Titans go for Levis.
     
  23. KnoxVegasSteel

    KnoxVegasSteel Well-Known Member

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    The hype Sanders is getting is absolutely ridiculous. That dude should be day 2 guy, but someone is going to waste draft capital on him. Just hope he's long gone by the time steelers pick. If they were to mortgage the future and some how trade up and ended up with Sanders, my steelers fandom will be officially over.
     
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  24. Trafalgar

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    So if it's a bad class, which it is, then that narrows the field even further and makes spending a high pick, which we cannot afford, on a QB even more risky, it's much better CB and DL class than QB. Wew've already traded away our 2nd rounder. This class is Cam Ward, who let's not get carried away here, is the best of a bad bunch, not the next Andrew Luck, then SS who many people are divided on and a load of career backups in all likelyhood.

    This looks like KP's class, only Ward and Sanders are better prospects that KP and Malik Willis were as the top two of that year, what both have in common below that top 2, is a load of mid prospects, guys just like Sam Howell. Matt Corral etc none of whom are leading an NFL team anywhere. These guys aren' t even close to the talent level of the much maligned Baker Mayfield.
     
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  25. Thor

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    I get where you're coming from, though I'd argue this class is better than 2022.

    The flip side to things is that if this were, say, the presumed class of '26 you'd have Tennessee, Cleveland, and the Giants all going QB; the Raiders and Jets would be looking, maybe even the Colts and Dolphins. There would be at least five off the board before the Steelers could take one. I'm not going to get into how this year's QB3 or 4 compares to next year's QB6, but the Steelers routinely pick around #20. They haven't been north of 15 without trading up since they drafted Ben. The chances of them getting a prime QB prospect are slim.

    I'm not saying they should force a pick. But they can't try calling their shot with future drafts either. If they feel good about a guy in the right round, take him. For me, that's no one at 21 (especially if they don't trade back into the second round). The third is iffy, depends on who's there.
     

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