Tell me about this 2025 QB class.

Tiny hands Kenny

 

Okay. But Cowher also says he was worried about Ben's maturity and the level of competition he came out of. Ben was considered the 3rd best QB of that class. Nobody knew what he was going to be able to bring. Which is why the FO was split. Making him a reach at QB there. Manning and Rivers were not a reach, yet Ben had the better career. So now, on the backside of it all, Ben was not a reach because he worked out.
I'm around lots of Saints fans. They still talk about how they were so glad when the Chiefs traded ahead of them to get Mahomes. They just knew they were going to take him, but he was too much of a reach at that spot. So Mahomes was considered a reach by the Saints fans, but obviously not by the Chiefs FO. Was he a reach or not?

 

It's not irrelevant at all, as Pickett wasn't seperate from the rest of the class, he was part of that class, which was universally hailed as awful, even worse than this years crop. So it's not a good idead to waste a draft pick on a QB ina terrible class. We did that 3 years ago and he was was ****.

Let's not to do that again.

The Commanders have gone from absolute trash tier for 2 decades to the 2nd best team in the NFC, with one draft pick, in ONE SEASON and it wasn't someone who reminded anyone of a mediocre QB prospect, like Kenny Pickett.

If the Steelers are foolish enough to waste a draft pick on a QB from this years class, then on their heads be it.

 

all this years crop pick has to be is better than skylar thompson. this class is far better than kenny picketts class. you have to pick to find out. letting mel kiper or any other talking head that knows very little except for numbers off the interweb for their rankings is not a good idea to listen to. this class may not be spectacular but there are some solid picks available. if nothing else we need backups in the system. you let mason do what he does with these weapons added and let arth do what he does with the QB room. if the newbie doesn't work out you try again next year or the year after. move forward not back.

 

Can't have Kenny Pickett decision hold you back. Drafting Kenny was not a good decision because the Steelers already had the heir apparent in Rudolph. Kenny one hundred percent deserved to be drafted to be the starter for some team and to be given starter snaps and a chance to compete for SB. It did not work out. He was not competitive enough in the two seasons and offseason here and letting him go was also a good decision. Kenny was not good enough of a prospect coming out of college into NFL for a team to have strong unwaivering conviction in him, so the leash was short. That's fine.
But Kenny was a much better prospect than some other who have gotten starting reps and are still getting them, like Levis, Richardson, Maye, who are also given, gifted that starter window to compete for SB.
Bottom line, Steelers cannot have that Pickett contract that is in the past hold them back from getting into a new window with a new starter.

 

You lost me at Rudolph being the heir apparent to Ben. Not even close.

 

That's because you are a hindsight guy, you are not a visionary. You should not make decisions.

 

I liked Ben from the moment he got off the bus on draft night with the other 'green room' prospects. He was cracking jokes with everybody and just seemed like it wasn't too big for him. He was standing at somebody else's table, not even at his own table. He started goofing with Eli about the candy dish. He asked Eli if he could have his candy since Eli wouldn't be there long enough to eat it. I thought it was funny stuff. I remember thinking I hope we draft this guy. And we did.
Ben was one of the green room invites so no, he wasn't some huge reach at all. We made the perfect draft pick. Even if we weren't 100%behind it at the time.

 

Yeah that line made me have a good laugh. The guy lost his job to Duck Hodges and Will Levis. The only way he can help us this year is get us the #1 draft pick like he did for the Titans.

 

Cowher was kinda correct about Bens maturity. Ben wouldn’t take NO for an answer. No means no Ben

 

Rudolph was definitely drafted to take over after Ben. It did not work out. In his chances he was given he failed. MR is not the worst option but he's also not close to the best. He may end up as the only option for this season. If so, I'll be a MR fan.

 

Uh ok, sure thing there Einstein. Dude sucked when they drafted him and he still sucks. In fact, every QB not named Ben that they have drafted or acquired over the past 20 years has been dogsh!t. Mason hasn't developed since he came into the NFL. His shortcomings are the same as they were in college.

 

Some years the top picks are pretty obvious for guys like Mel, in 23 Mel had Will levis the second best QB and had him going at 5, well that did not work out. There will always be some GM/owner who falls in love and/or reaches for position need. But as the draft approaches those who study and actually do this for a living send the vibes out. Thus Levis drops, hoping the Steeler front office has a voice they listen to when it comes to choosing this year. I agree there appears to be solid picks, it's not necessarily just getting someone, it is getting the one you think can develop.

 

Terry Bradshaw 1970

Mark Malone 1980

Ben Roethlisberger 2004

Kenny Pickett 2022


Complete list of Steelers 1st round QBs in the SB era. History says we won't do it again until sometime around 2040.

 

By that time Roughing the Passer will be just entering the defensive huddle.

 

October 12, 2011

 

Why say either version

They both are correct

 

You are wrong. You are talking out of your butt and that's a big problem. There is a reason Colbert drafted Rudolph. The reason is that Rudolph was a type of QB you draft to start. He was akin to Ben, Goff, Mahomes, Eli Manning, etc. A QB who can and should start right away coming out of college because he is already developed. He was not like Levis, Richardson or Maye or some other QBs who sucked in college and need snaps to develop.
Rudolph was a 4 years starter in college with plenty of experience, and winning seasons in each of his 4 years in college, good seasons with 10-3 records, and 3 bowl game wins. He was not a developmental quarterback.

Stats for last season in college:

Big Ben: 14 games, 342/495, 69%, 4486 yards, 37 TD, 10 INT
Goff: 13 games, 341/559, 65%, 4719 yards, 43 TD, 13 INT
Mahomes: 12 games, 388/591, 5052 yards, 41 TD, 10 INT
Eli: 13 games, 275/441, 3600 yards, 29 TD, 10 INT
Rudolph: 13 games, 318/489, 65%, 37 TD, 9 INT.

And no, playing off the bench in 7 seasons to compile 17 starts in those 7 season is not enough and is not a shot in the NFL. The shot at SB is what Big Ben and Mahomes, and Eli and Goff got, which is a 4-5 year starter contract and time and snaps.

 

Rudolph had his chance

 

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Bags Tomlin and Arthur Smith. They are one in the same. Archaic minds.