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Should the Steelers draft a young qb like Jaxson Dart?

Discussion in 'Steelers Talk' started by rush58, Jan 27, 2025.

  1. steelersrule6

    steelersrule6 Well-Known Member

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  2. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    I remember him being Mr Irrelevant but forgot he came from the Pickett draft. So one good guy out of the whole class. That’s a pretty bad QB class.
     
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  3. Wardismvp

    Wardismvp Well-Known Member

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    I guess we shall see how desperate teams are, the players being mentioned are falling
    in 3-4 th round on some publications I have looked at. Who knows? I see only 2 teams
    have coaches capable of coaching them up.LARams ,SF49ers
     
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  4. Bubbahotep

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    What I wouldn't give to pilfer Stoutland from Philly. Probably have to give him a title like assistant OC for a promo to move.
     
  5. mac daddyo

    mac daddyo Well-Known Member

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    why would he want to come here from a super bowl team? that would make him look worse as a coach when he's at the top of the heap. would be nice but won't happen. :cool:
     
  6. Busman

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    No such thing as halftime adjustments. In game adjustments yes but there is no time during half-time to formulate any strategies. As Manning pointed out you go in to the locker room at half-time eat and orange or two use the restroom but half-time adjustments he says are a myth.
     
  7. Hanratty#5

    Hanratty#5 Well-Known Member

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    Dart through the best pass I saw in the Senior Bowl on the 2 point conversion he made. He rolled to his right and fired a bullet into a tight window for the completion. It was a next level throw that just came naturally to him.
     
  8. Jball

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    Yes, and one of the biggest things that some are hung up on is the Kiffin offense. They say it's barely even a one read offense. They have no idea how he'll look in a pro style offense, under center, going through progressions.
     
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  9. Wardismvp

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    As they should be, These QB's don't know how to read defenses. Other than Jayden Daniels ,Burrows, Mahomes, and Stafford and Bill's QB all the rest can't read defenses.
     
  10. mac daddyo

    mac daddyo Well-Known Member

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    it's not just up to the coaches. you have to draft a qb that is capable brain wise to build on what is coached to him. intelligence. they all have talent to some degree. milroe and fields are players that live off of God given talent but i don't believe have the mental capacity to learn it and then put it into practice. a franchise guy can only go so far if he doesn't work towards that end. they can win games with a good team around them but when the stakes are raised they don't have that edge. :cool:
     
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  11. forgotten1

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    Have we ever had a seriously cerebral selection at quarterback?
    Pickett probably but we let him go
     
  12. mac daddyo

    mac daddyo Well-Known Member

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    not to the extent that they developed them into a tom brady. we did have a rocket scientist. ben didn't put in the work. many ride that God given talent and don't put the work in to be that type of qb. not that ben didn't work on his game but he could have been so much more. we had the team around him. some of that is coaching doing the same. they let it happen and continue. if they are here they may need to do much of it themselves. :cool:
     
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  13. SGSteeler

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    IDK, I think the notion that Ben couldn't read defenses was a bunch of sh*t. He never turned into Brady or Peyton, but he was never that kind of player. He turned into more of that player late in his career, but in his prime his size and ability to extend the play was his strength. Hard to fault him for going through his progressions then breaking the pocket to find someone open on route adjustments. You don't get to be the level of passer that he was without being elite at reading defenses. He's probably one of the 10 best QB's in league history.
     
  14. forgotten1

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    Ben was a therapist so we all know he never put effort into studying the game he tried to analyze where the next target was unfortunatelly not on the football field just the other field.
     
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  15. Bubbahotep

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    “Playmaker, first thing I think of. Dart can throw it, has a very strong arm, can get the ball down the field, gets the shot plays where they need to get to. He can improvise and run, and then the (Rebels) have planned quarterback runs off of it too, whether it’s cheat runs, runs up inside and then he can run in between the tackles or outside. A very gifted guy and a lot of ability,” former Texas A&M coach Jeff Fisher said last year.
     
  16. TGH

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    The Steelers need to decide who they are going with at QB for the next 4 years. That decision is not made in camp. The position is for a QB to compete for SB against top teams and QBs in the league. It's not about finding a "good" QB.
    I would not sign Dart for that task. I would not sign Fields or Wilson for that task.
     
  17. Rel

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    Dart in round 2 is a huge reach, they could probably have him in round 3, even 4. Lane Kiffin does not have a good reputation for preparing QB's for the NFL.
     
  18. Blast Furnace

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    Have to disagree. I believe Ben struggled reading defenses for a while. I think thats why he would resort to playing backyard football, he got by on his natural talent and then after playing several seasons he began to figure it out and became that player you are talking about.
     
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  19. mac daddyo

    mac daddyo Well-Known Member

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    you can draft these qb's but first you have to protect them. give them a fighting chance. you can't just expect them to scramble every play and make things happen. for them to learn they have to have some time back there. the line needs fixed for sure. all we have right now is potential. that's like a hope and prayer. not a good environment for a young guy to build confidence. the ravens whole line is pretty much free agents this year. i'm counting on weidl to fix it. draft a qb and get the next phase of this team rolling. :cool:
     
  20. oksteelers#20

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    I just love how you jump to the conclusion that Russ was the problem due to stubbornness with no real evidence to back it up. The end of season collapse looked more like a coach hamstringing his players ability to change things.
     

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