1. Hi Guest, Registrations are now open. See you on the inside.
    Dismiss Notice

Senior Bowl thread

Discussion in 'The Bill Nunn Draft Room' started by steelersrule6, Jan 28, 2025.

  1. steelersrule6

    steelersrule6 Well-Known Member

    31,821
    7,818
    Nov 14, 2011



     
    Last edited: Jan 29, 2025
  2. Jball

    Jball Well-Known Member

    4,208
    898
    Jan 1, 2012
    It sure does. :roflmao:
     
    • Like Like x 1
  3. Jball

    Jball Well-Known Member

    4,208
    898
    Jan 1, 2012
    I'm all for Grant at #21, I just don't know that he'll make it. He's gonna show out at the combine. Especially for his size.
     
    • Agree Agree x 1
  4. steelersrule6

    steelersrule6 Well-Known Member

    31,821
    7,818
    Nov 14, 2011
     
    • Like Like x 2
  5. Jball

    Jball Well-Known Member

    4,208
    898
    Jan 1, 2012
    When are you thinking Ty Robinson goes? I really like him but I think he'll be gone before rd 4. He could last longer.
     
  6. AskQuestionsLater

    AskQuestionsLater Writing Team

    23,412
    5,845
    Apr 21, 2016

    Ty Robinson will most definitely be available by Round 4. For that matter, I think that is too rich for him. He is a mid Day Three player due to his lack of length. An Arm Length of 32.5 inches as a 5 Tech IDL isn't ideal. He does possess a relentless motor along with the ability to pass rush. However, due to his lack of length, he is often going to lose engagements in the running game. Not only that, while he does have a great amount of experience played, his continual omission of leverage when engaging opposing lineman in both run and pass will leave him vulnerable.
     
    • Agree Agree x 1
  7. Hanratty#5

    Hanratty#5 Well-Known Member

    7,205
    3,671
    Apr 20, 2019
    Walker is 6'7" and weighs 340 if he is motivated to play for Tomlin that is a good thing.
     
  8. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

    43,039
    9,562
    Oct 16, 2011
  9. AskQuestionsLater

    AskQuestionsLater Writing Team

    23,412
    5,845
    Apr 21, 2016


    The crazy thing about Deone Walker's skillset is that it doesn't translate well to a 3-4 DE like some believe. If anything, Walker is a very weird and very unusual 4-3 DT sadly trapped in a 3-4 DEs body. Thing about 4-3 DTs?! They have to be both explosive and quick; neither fitting Walker's profile. However, a 3-4 DE needs to be both long and stout against the run; Walker only having the physical aspect but not possessing neither the leverage nor conditioning required to do even that.



    He might just be a player without a position. Truly a shame considering he was my favorite IDL coming into the 2024 NCAA FBS I Season.
     
    • Agree Agree x 1
  10. AskQuestionsLater

    AskQuestionsLater Writing Team

    23,412
    5,845
    Apr 21, 2016

    Thing is he is going to need some serious coaching up; namely in his leverage and conditioning. The tools are no doubt there; among the best of any position in the draft... bar none. The key is how to maximize his tools.


    As I told @Blast Furnace@Blast Furnace, his tape suggests that he would be a solid 4-3 DT but there is insufficient evidence in that as those types of IDLs have to be both explosive and quick. If not, better have some crazy levels of strength; something Cameron Heyward did have while at Ohio State. Deone does himself but he is nowhere near the level of explosive that Cameron Heyward was coming out.


    Forget about putting him at 3-4 DE as well. Again, his conditioning and leverage are both going to need major overhauls. Given how stout and sound 3-4 DEs need to be against the run?! Deone can defend the run but not for the length of time needed for the position.
     
  11. steelersrule6

    steelersrule6 Well-Known Member

    31,821
    7,818
    Nov 14, 2011
  12. Jball

    Jball Well-Known Member

    4,208
    898
    Jan 1, 2012
    That's the consensus I'm getting about him. His pad level is a big issue with him. When he gets his pad level down, he can have and unstoppable bull rush, but to get that low he can tend to lunge or lose sight of where the play is going because he's going in head down. Like in the clip above where he walks the Center back. But, if he doesn't stay low he gets stood up and loses his leverage. Being that those 3-4 DL take on a lot of combo blocks, I don't know that he is the best choice.

    He kinda reminds me of Daniel McCullers. His body is his appeal, and his curse.
     
    Last edited: Jan 30, 2025 at 7:24 AM
    • Agree Agree x 2
  13. Born2Steel

    Born2Steel Well-Known Member

    2,202
    772
    Jul 7, 2023
    The knock on McCullers was he was not aggressive enough. He could be immovable but was not a penetrator.
     
    • Agree Agree x 1
  14. Brice

    Brice

    6,757
    1,883
    Jul 18, 2018
    If you can believe Noah and his sources, the Steelers are completely ignoring the QBs at the Senior Bowl. Instead they are focusing on D-Line, WR, and RB.
     
  15. Hanratty#5

    Hanratty#5 Well-Known Member

    7,205
    3,671
    Apr 20, 2019
    Speaking of WR I have seen 3 mock drafts that have the Steelers taking Matthew Golden from Texas with pick #21. I know he really looked good in the college playoffs. 6'0" and weighs 190 who runs a 4.38 and is a great route runner.
     
  16. Jball

    Jball Well-Known Member

    4,208
    898
    Jan 1, 2012
    Interesting. Maybe they aren't interested in any of them? Howard is the one that isn't there.:hmm:

    Or maybe they're trying not to tip their hand.
     
  17. Brice

    Brice

    6,757
    1,883
    Jul 18, 2018
    LET ME KNOW IF THIS IS CORRECT.

    Mike Tomlin - Present
    Arthur Smith - Present
    Omar Khan - Present

    T. Austin - Missing
    P Meyer - Missing
     
  18. CK 13

    CK 13 Well-Known Member

    11,865
    2,930
    Nov 5, 2011
    I will join you for a cocktail.

    Fun Fact: He has smaller hands then Pickett :eek:

    Rather get Dart or Howard in the later rounds.
     
    • Agree Agree x 1
  19. steelersrule6

    steelersrule6 Well-Known Member

    31,821
    7,818
    Nov 14, 2011
    Austin and Weidl were there I didn't see Meyer there.
     
    • Informative Informative x 1
  20. Born2Steel

    Born2Steel Well-Known Member

    2,202
    772
    Jul 7, 2023
    I like Deone Walker a lot. Also like the guy from Texas Alfred Collins. There is aNT from Clemson, DeMonte Capehart that could be a mid round pick.
     
  21. steelersrock151

    steelersrock151 Well-Known Member

    3,872
    1,707
    Nov 18, 2011
    Fun fact- Milroe 8 6/8"
    Pickett- 8 4/8" (8 5/8 at his pro day).
     
  22. Hanratty#5

    Hanratty#5 Well-Known Member

    7,205
    3,671
    Apr 20, 2019
    But Kenny wore 2 gloves to make his hand 8 7/8!
     
  23. CK 13

    CK 13 Well-Known Member

    11,865
    2,930
    Nov 5, 2011
    Well I stand corrected:

    Milroe 8 3/4"
    Kenny: 8 5/8"

    Both under the minimum 9"
     
  24. CK 13

    CK 13 Well-Known Member

    11,865
    2,930
    Nov 5, 2011
    He is home rereading "How to be an Offensive Line coach for Dummies"
     
  25. SGSteeler

    SGSteeler Well-Known Member

    7,335
    1,703
    Sep 9, 2013
    That isn't super surprising to me. I don't think we have any intention on going after the top 2-3 guys of the draft. They can defer to the middle rounds at QB if they want to try with one of those players.

    WR and RB seem to be our biggest positions of need (and we eventually need to get younger at DL, though it isn't a necessity immediately). The FA period can change that, but it is at least nice to see that we value those spots. Getting an influx of talent into our offensive weapon group would be very exciting.
     
    • Agree Agree x 1

Share This Page

Welcome to the ultimate resource for Steelers fans. Sign Up Here!