offseason pirates thread. Come in for the fire sale

For all the oldsters here - just saw where long time Pirate pitcher Bob Veale passed away at 89. The guy could really pitch and was sort of the poor man's Bob Gibson, amassing a plethora of W's, good ERA and strikeouts. He pitched on some very awful Pirate teams in the mid-late 60's but did get a WS ring with the '71 team. RIP Sir, well done.

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BC needs to trade Keller to O`s for Coby Mayo plus 1 . I like Keller but Pirates really need some power. I think Keller would flourish elsewhere as #3 -4 guy.

 

Skenes/Keller/Jones. For a cheap ass team that is a decent starting 3. If, a big if, they all could have a good season together the Pirates could smell 90 wins.

 

Also depends on which Bednar shows up - very good Bednar or awfully bad Bednar. He won't have El Chapo to bale him out either when he falters. (No relation to SP Falter).

 

Bedar had a retty bad ear. If hew could turn it aoround next year that would be excelllent.

 

Kitty walking on the keyboard?

 

well to be fair I may have been a bit inebriated. Just a tad understand!

 

I don’t know about the rest of you, but I was kind of hoping the other owners would do an intervention or something at the winter meeting, to try to persuade the owner to sell the team for the good of baseball. Unfortunately, Nutting doing.
Being a Pirates fan is kind of like being a Browns fan, in that the losing seems to go on and on, but the reasons for the losing are quite different. The Browns suck because the owner is an idiot who does idiotic things. Haslam has no idea at all what he is doing, and because he owns the team and because of his ego can’t allow someone competent to run things. He is not loathe to spend money, but he just spends it stupidly.
Nutting on the other hand always shops in the bargain aisle for free agents. Any trade first and foremost is a salary dump, and acquiring talent by trade is seemingly a secondary purpose. It is horrible to watch and won’t end until Nutting sells the team or the rules of baseball are changed to level the playing field. The NFL has made the decision to have a strong league. MLB has made the decision to have strong teams in the major markets, with small market teams relegated to the role that jobbers play in pro wrestling. The mess that is the Pirates is partly the fault of the owner, but it is partly the fault of MLB for allowing it to happen.
I have never heard anyone refer to a small market team in the NFL, have you?

 

The system in MLB is part of the problem, but that is never going to change. The owners prefer it this way. Even owners like Nutting, because it allows them to spend less money.

Nutting isn't selling the team. He is making money. He doesn't care about the city and he doesn't care about winning. The Pirates are wasting decades of the best ballpark in the game because they have one of its worst owners.