you play to WIN, Tomlin living in his fears

Yeah, but McCormick, Frazier and hopefully Jones will have more experience and improved over 2024. I still think the O line is the root of all of our problems. Steelers need a better Guard and LT to go along with them. I don't think Moore is a franchise caliber LT.

 

I know it’s hard for you to admit, but Moore has developed into a solid lt

 

Just got a call from family in the Burgh and it seems Ms Tomlin is with child. Now if my wife was over 50 and pregnant I'm really living in my fears.

 

Moore is average. The better edge rushers usually get around him.

 

I agree about the O-line. I've always been a believer NFL games are won in the trenches.

 

All my neighbors are Bengals fans. They can’t believe that we actually complain about Mike Tomlin. After Najee fumbled there was no way the Steelers were going to win yesterday. That was coffin nails. Punting the ball made no difference.

 

I sure the hell can see that. They had poor Marvin Lewis for way to long. I'm a fan of lesser teams I would want Tomlin ASAP.

 

Yeah, it was still a wrong decision. His reasoning is irrelevant to whether or not it was correct.

 

Yeah, we were losing the game because our offense was sucking... But we needed to score 14 points in 10 minutes to have a shot at winning the game. So you have to go for it at some point? The way our defense was playing, there was a very low percentage chance we would get multiple possessions after punting there. I don't think that punting and conceding the game was a better decision than going for it on 4th and 6 at mid field. Coach T just chalked it up to an L and moved on. Hated the call, and anyone that enjoys winning more than losing would too.

Tomlin said in his presser that he was "playing to win the game" by having the starters out there when TJ got hurt, but also punted down 14 points with the ball at midfield with 10 mins left. Didn't feel like that decision was made in an effort to "win the game".

Mike T has done a lot of good this season. It is totally fine to criticize a glaringly wrong decision that he made. He's made plenty of good decisions in 2024. That wasn't one of them, and to act like it was correct or "not a big deal" is idiotic.

 

We needed 14 points. So two additional possessions and two defensive stops. We had already given up 27 points in 3 quarters and had the TOP dominated all game. Banking on making the Eagles go 3 and out (something I am pretty sure we hadn't done all game) was a stretch. The game was essentially ended with 2 or 3 first downs. We wouldn't have had enough time to score twice at that point.

We had to gain 7 yards at some point, right? If we were feeling doubtful about gaining 7 yards on one play, then how were we planning on scoring 14 points in 7 minutes or less? The decision was just not sound. It feels like Tomlin is very inconsistent in when he goes and when he doesn't. He's fine doing a fake punt at his own 20 up 7, he's okay going for it multiple times in our own end against the Browns in the snow, but scared of 7 yards when were down 14 points and the clock is ticking out? Idk. Just.... weird for sure.

 

What analytics here are saying is that going for it and failing has the exact same chance of winning as punting. So the decision SHOULD HAVE been to go for it, since punting doesn't advance our chances at winning. If we get the first down, our chances are low of winning still, but they are doubled.

It doesn't matter if it was inconsequential or not, it is still worth discussing since it was very blatantly a wrong decision. These are the type of things that frustrate fans with Tomlin, and it is a large reason why my (and others) belief in our ability to win a big playoff game with Tomlin making the decisions is dwindling by the year. He does a lot of good, but his on field decision making hurts the team a lot more than it helps it.

 

And what was the likelihood they were going to convert a 4th and 7 against the best pass defense in the league ?

 

And if they had gone for it and failed y’all would still be bitching

 

It was greater than 2%, which was the likelihood of winning the game with a punt there.

Ironically enough, 2% was the win percentage had we gone for it and missed.

 

Nope. It was the right decision to go for it whether we got it or not. You make the correct decision and live with the results. Every competitive sport is like that.

I can live with making the right decision and just not getting it. It was a lot tougher to watch us essentially give up and punt it.

 

It was the right decision according to a computer. If you want hold analytics as some gospel do so to your hearts content. That’s your opinion and you’re entitled to it. With that being said I do not and will not. Analytics is a useful tool, but that’s all it is. It’s not a hill you die on

 

Think before posting if you can

 

Honest answer. No way would I have ripped Tomlin for being aggressive there. The Eagles were the better team. You can't play conservatively in a situation like that.

 

The defense struggled all night, well before they had reason to be tired, and the offense didn't even get a chance with the ball until halfway through the third quarter.

 

Yup. Those were inexcusable misses, especially the one by Porter and Queen.

 

I knew the defense wasn't going to hold up after that punt. Game was over when they punted.

 

many here did , too - some didn't , apparently.

 

correct.

some here just don't understand the feel of the game.

punting was the white flag, it was Tomlin saying "we quit"

it was juvenile of him and then his lame explanation. Have heard them for years. there are times that you have to roll the dice and that was one of them. Game was over with the punt.

 

No NFL team is going to hire a coach who hasn't won a playoff game for 8 years. That's why Bellichick is coaching college ball now.