donte jackson in rare company

correct - we are all going to start being hindsight 20-20 experts, all of the sudden? They had plenty of CB horses in the stable, by opening day. And the thought, as it has played out, is that Sutton would be suspended and be FRESH now, when we needed a fresh body.

I find it comical.......

 

The steelers are in a win now situation...the 2026 or 2027 season is not important right now when Watt will be older and Heyward maybe in retirement.I think Russell Wilson will be our QB after this year but crazy thing have happened before....So easy to be a good GM after the fact

 

correct - WIN NOW BABY!

 

it is what COLBERT (Dilbert!) should have been thinking in Ben's last couple years, but that knucklehead was 'building' for some future 5 years down the road.

 

Sutton was far from a sure thing. They had no experienced slot corner for the first half of the season. Trice was a late-round pick coming off a torn ACL. No, the corner position was not set going into the draft.

Also, as I previously pointed out, Jackson can be a free agent after this season, so there was a long-term need at the position.

 

what do you mean Sutton was far from a sure thing?

and we signed St. Pierre and others, (and we knew who else we could have signed, if we had the need). No one was 'relying' in Trice, he would have been icing on the cake.

this is a dead horse - the CB position has not been a problem, for 2024. We will figure out 2025......in 2025.

 

Except many of us, myself included, wrote that they should have taken Mitchell on draft day, so please don't misrepresent what I'm posting as hindsight. I wrote that they should have taken him or one of the centers at the time, and in the case of Mitchell, the way events have unfolded this season has proven me right. He would have contributed immediately, but he and Porter would have given the Steelers a strong pair of corners long term.

Also, ignoring the future in that way makes no sense. The goal is to win now and continue to build for the future. Mitchell would have helped them do that. It's not hindsight to say so, but hindsight does make it very clear they made the wrong choice.

 

Mitchell would have been a fine pick. So was Troy. He was not the 'wrong choice' - there is nothing clear about it. His injury happened - they do. Him healthy for the 2024 Season, was part of Tomlin and Khan's plan. This running game was supposed to be stronger.

We are making due.......

you grade a draft 2-3 years later. not in Week 12 of that season.

 

Possible but it's also true in the offseason that we wanted to put Jones at the LT position and having a good RT was important for that.The steelers were more comfortable at the CB position for 2024 and for the future than the tackle position since like Jackson, Moore is also a free agent after this year and they have more chance of keeping Jackson than Moore in 2025

 

Sutton sucked in Detroit. He was going to be coming off missing half the season due to the suspension. He was not impressive in the preseason. No, he was not a sure thing.

At the time of the draft, the Steelers had moved on from Pierre. He signed with the Commanders in March. They cut him at the end of August and the Steelers picked him back up in mid-September.

Trice opened the season as the first cornerback off the bench, so I don't think it is accurate to imply that they weren't counting on him to play a role this season.

At the time of the draft, all the Steelers had at corner for the first half of the season was Porter, Trice, and Jackson, so there was a need at the position.

Cornerback has definitely been a problem in 2024. They got stuck relying on an undrafted rookie in the slot and Bishop has struggled at times. Jackson has left two games with injuries. They ended up giving significant playing time to Pierre, a guy they plucked back off the scrap heap after the season started.

As I wrote previously, Mitchell likely would have been the better option long term. Jackson is a free agent after this season. They are going to have to invest in a starter opposite Porter. What hindsight tells us very clearly is that they would have been better off for the 2024 season if they had taken Mitchell and not just because Fautanu got hurt. Mitchell has already established himself as an excellent cornerback.

 

Sutton was in a complete different role in Detroit...He was often against Mike Evans,Justin Jefferson,etc....

 

correct - he was never to be a #1 starter here - in the SLOT, nickle - his role here - all day.....

too much dead horse here.

CB is and was fine for 2024.

Check please.

new plan for 2025....we can discuss in February!!!!

 

If you don't want me to keep going, don't keep posting things that don't fit the facts. They had to pick Pierre back up from the scrap heap and play him quite a bit at corner. That alone tells us that cornerback is not fine for 2024. Also, maybe look at Winston and Burrow did to that secondary the last couple of weeks.

 

they HAD OPTIONS at CB - they knew Pierre and another slew of has beens would be there to pick from.

OL was #1 all day long

 

Every team who have 2 injuries at the same position,it will hurt(like Trice and sometimes Jackson)...We can said the same thing for the o-line.This year our o-line was much weaker that the secondary for the steelers.Possible the o-line would been much stronger if Fautanu would been healthy....

You were also against the pick of our G in the fourth round....Thank god they draft him or the o-line would been a true dumpster fire after the James Daniels injury

 

The wonders of 20/20 hindsight are on who we should have taken in the draft is that it allows you to ignore how bad Dan Moore Jr. was last year. He's playing better this year, so they forget that.

 

Actually we can't discuss it in February. That'll have to wait till March. In February well be too busy discussing the Steelers Super Bowl win.

 

Those players were on the scrap heap for a reason and they had the tackles they ended up using anyway, which made cornerback as viable an option as tackle. Given that the best corner was still on the board, he would have been the right call.

 

Please stop misrepresenting posts as hindsight when the poster wrote that the Steelers should have taken the top corner over a tackle back in April during the draft. It is misleading and unfair.

 

The difference being I saw short-term and long-term concerns at cornerback at the time. Nobody could have known they would lose Daniels, Herbig, and Fautanu for the season. Remember, there was talk of Fautanu eventually moving to guard, so they likely had four viable options at guard before they took McCormick. They didn't have that sort of depth at cornerback.

If we are going to use hindsight to evaluate the McCormick selection, then we should use it for the first-round pick as well. If we are going to consider that, it is inarguable among the sane that they should have taken Mitchell.

 

I've been advocating for another 1st round DB for years.

 

I've said for the last two year that DJ Moore wasn't as bad as people liked to say, and I've been begging for a 1st round DB for like 4 straight years.

 

And a 2nd, and a 3rd, and a.....

 

LoL

 

This.

For that matter, who the hell knows what the Steelers Big Board looks like?! If anything, Graham Barton may have been the pick if Troy Fautanu had not been there. Offensive Line was going to be a massive need anyhow given how the team needed both a RT and a Center. Pittsburgh drafted both and, so far, they not only got the best Center in the draft but also one of the best players overall in Zach Frazier. Troy's injury sadly prevented us from seeing what he could do for an extended period; him being 25 also less appealing as well. However, I have no doubt that Fautanu will be a rock solid Offensive Tackle for many years.


As bad as the Dislocated Knee was, David DeCastro had the same injury in his Rookie Season; a Torn MCL along with it the same. DeCastro ended up becoming a perennial Pro Bowler and multiple All Pro recipient. Never mind that though for today's advancements in Science and Medicine have sought to it that players are coming back from injuries better than they were a decade ago. Remember the *ACL Killer Career injuries* of the 2000s to early 2010s?! That is no longer the case. I seriously doubt a dislocated kneecap is going to capsize someone like Troy.


In short?! Someone like Quinyon definitely would have made Pittsburgh's Defensive Secondary one of the scariest, if not the scariest, in the NFL. The question now becomes... at what cost?!