worilds and the defense

i have full faith in worilds to fill the spot. that leaves woodley having to stay healthy and worilds too. that's something that hasen't happened for awhile. carter is coming into year 3 so i don't think he's a canidate for cutting in preseason and robinson now going into year 2 and most likely a draft pick. we almost have to keep robinson now wouldn't we, since he's going into year two? he'd be the second backup, one would think.


what about sylvester? i thought i had heard he was getting some time at OLB too, last year in practice. would he be kept for that duty again? how about rolle?

 

If Worilds starts in Harrison's spot he should be able to produce the same results or better he came off the bench and had like 5 sacks, Harrison only had 6. And Worilds will cost half as much as they were paying Harrison.

 

mayby, but i belive Worilds was playing in Woodleys spot when he got his five sacks..

 

I wonder what the possibility would be to move Woodley into Harrisons spot and start Worilds in Woodleys spot. Im just not sure that Woodley would be strong on the right side.

 

there's a huge different in spot duty, and doing it when everyone knows you're coming.......I'm still not convinced about worilds' ability to do it on a full time basis. say what you will about Harrison, but towards the bottom 3rd of the season, Harrison was our best (and maybe only good) edge rusher. and he was still not anywhere near 100%..... i'm convinced that someone will overpay for Harrison, so I know he won't be back, and that actually worries me quite a bit. even if we draft someone for the position, history shows that he won't play until at least the following season....we are in trouble here... obviously, I could be dead wrong here, as the f.o. has proven me wrong before and reloaded at certain positions... maybe worilds is ready. maybe Sylvester will take it. maybe someone else will have developed.. i'm not in the locker rm.... i'll be happy to acknowledge it if i'm wrong, but until then, i'm admittedly scared to death.

 

I would be very surprised if they do that.

 

"Worilds is just as good as Harrison" said no one who knows what they are talking about ever

Worilds was most effective in Woodleys place...not on Harrisons side.....just saying.

Worilds at best will be at best effective...at worst a liability....but he is not a game changer or a play maker IMO.....guess we will see....feel free to come back and tell me how wrong I was when Worilds puts up 12 sacks 4 INT's and is in the Pro Bowl this year.


HACK

 

I like Worilds and think he's kinda under appreciated. But still you don't just say "next man up" and replace James Harrison just like that. The reason it's news that he got cut is because he's made such a difference in this d for such a long time. It's actually unfair to any of our players to say their not like other players. If everyone was the same then no one would be special. It's time for our d to get hungry again. If Tomlin has "the standard is the standard" policy then I guess we are really about to find out if it's true or not.

 

T o be fair to Worilds we didn't kno what we had with #92 either when he became the starter, he was cut 3 times and was'nt a starter until PEEZY left, so you nvr can tell Woirlids could be the nxt 92and 95 combined,

 

Worilds should be training extra hard after hearing the news about Harrison. I hope he's down in florida with Ike.

 

None of the guys in the very pass rush heavy draft this year will be as good as Harrison was, either. At least, the odds are extremely slim, since he was one of the best ever to play the position. We are going to see dropoff. The question with Worilds isn't if he'll be as good has Silverback, it's if he'll be able to perform at a high enough level to be an actual benefit to the team as opposed to a serviceable starter that isn't splashy but does a good enough job (Haggans style). Or worse, a liability. I don't think he'll be a liability unless he's hurt. Whether he'll be a strong player for us or merely a serviceable one is what will be answered this season. I know you and I disagree about his ceiling, but I guess we'll find out. I think he can be not great, but pretty good. Hopefully he has a healthy offseason.

 

I'm not saying I'd be surprised, but I can definitely see the team moving in another direction. I agree that at least one of those guys will likely be on the board when we pick. But even if the team does not have faith in Worilds to do the job and would like to replace him, we know the Steelers don't reach for need. One of those guys might be available, but what if it's not the one the Steelers want? What if Mingo and Werner are there, and the FO doesn't have high grades on either of them for their system? Or maybe they do have high grades, but not as high as some other guy at some other position of need. We still have OG, ILB, S, and a couple other spots that could use picks. And we could trade back.

Plus, when was the last time the Steelers drafted an OLB in the first round? Not saying that means much, but the amazing string of talent we've had at the position for my entire lifetime has come in later rounds, or from undrafted players. I'm sure they have confidence in their own ability to find guys later.

 

My question is this. Do we still have the philosophy of taking the best player available? If so then who is that player and will we take him or will we take the highest player available for the need that we have. I mean if there are some quality linebackers early will we take the best one of them or will we take the best runningback because maybe it's gonna be thin later? Also I would bet that the FO probably has a completely different mindset concerning the "needs" that we do as just casual observers.

 

I would pass on Lacy, i think he is gona have alot of health issues in the NFL JMO,.. His PD has been postponed due to a hamstring.

 

Worlids will have to do it, because Woodley will be the one getting the double teams...

 

That's true to an extent; however, no olb we draft is going to be ready come day one. THey can draft a WR or OL and get an immediate return on investment. We have needs on defense, but we have IMMEDIATE needs on offense at both wr,rb, and possibly ol(depending on foster/colon).Some people seem to think that Beachum will be some plug and play guard for us. WHat we saw from him at guard was beyond pathetic. He performed better than expected at tackle, but still gave up a sack in every game started and needed quite a bit of help from the tight ends. They could have tried to start Beachum at left guard, but instead chose to move Pouncey to guard and start Legursky at center. That in and of itself should be quite telling. My bet is if Cooper or Warmack are there at 17 one of them will be the pick. With WR and S being addressed in the 2nd and 3rd rounds. Beachum will end up being our next Essex, a 3 position backup.

 

Seen a stat that in his 3 years he has played an equivalent of a full season of snaps and has ten sacks. I'm interested to see how much our one trick pony Robinson has developed maybe after this year he makes Woodley expandable.