Did Warmacks stock drop at the Combine?

warmack dropped 15lbs. from the end of the season for the combine and he still looked flabby and had tits. yes i could see him dropping. they say he needs to make his combine up at his pro day.

alot of these draftniks place guys more on reputation then actual attributes. he is not real mobile. he's a mauler in short area's, just like colon. ask them to do much more and it's out of there comfort zone and ability zone. he had very good players on either side of him too at bama. he won't be playing at alabama anymore. he'll be with the big boys. he has long arms that helps his short stature. he's not a flop but just not near as high as some make him out to be.

i absolutely would jump on lane johnson if he's there or cooper as well. i mentioned a week or so ago that warmack is the 2nd best guard at the combine. he's also not a good fit for what we are going to on our O-line.

ansah still doesn't immpress me either as a guy that will be an instant success here at OLB. he's a physical freak, but that does little in a highly situational based defense like we run. you actually have to watch for yourself his in game success. there's not alot of it. the offenses manipulates their scheme to use against him. he's out of position alot. he just doesn't have enough time in the game to know how to play it well.

there is a good article on the home page of steelers.com that talks about OLB'ers and how they are harder to find with other teams now using them. it talks about the read option and how to defend it. it talks about us being a rules oriented defense. thats why it takes so long for players to see the field here. they have to know what they are doing or it hurts every other position on the field. it fits right in with ansah being way to raw.

 

i don't doubt they will be good pro's at some point, it's at what position that will determine how fast some of them see the field. ansah would most likely start as a 4-3 DE alot faster then OLB, just because of the different responsibilities. it's not that i don't think he's a great athlete, just not a seasoned football player. it's the nfl not college. offenses would have a field day against guys like him if he's on the field to soon at OLB in our defense. he and woodley are not a good pairing as true OLB'ers in our scheme. we might as well change to the 4-3 if that's the case. when was the last time you saw the steelers with two 270+ lb. OLB'ers?

 

Not sure about the 2 270 OLB's, but that insinuates big and slow. Ansah runs a 4.63 40, much faster than many smaller OLBs.
And I think Warmack was hurt at the combine by both his own showing and that of Cooper. 4/10s faster in the 40. Strong (35 reps,2nd for o-line), not nearly as flabby. Teams will be less likely to trade up for Warmack knowing that Cooper is still sitting there.

 

did you watch the flab bouncing around on him? and he lost 15lbs. i didn't say he wasen't strong either. just flabby looking. he also wasen't very quick in drills and 10 yd. split times as alot of guys. he's a colon type player if thats your scheme and he will do well. if your scheme is mobility, he may not be the guy on a teams radar. maybe he goes to RG for alot of teams early on until they work on him.

do you think woodley is big and slow? some do. they still to this day run underneath woodley because he heads upfield to beat the tackle. the same thing i said about him as a rookie. they do it to ansah too if you watch his film. staright line speed has very little to do with insticts to play the position.

 

if we would use him as just that, but not in DLB's system. we have never done it in the past and i can't see them starting it this year. on tape he takes himself out of alot of plays. if they want to coach him for 2-3 years he's the guy, but his insticts don't scream nfl starter right now, and i see a long way to go to play here.

 

Warmack did have a poor combine.

In other news, Tony Mandarich tore it up a few years ago, running a 4.65 40!!

 

i would take ansah a lot more value , i think he will be gone in the top 5

 

i dont care if warmack has double d's. i have watched him close being a bama fan. the kid blocks everyone put in front of him and when he is done with them he goes and finds someone else. saban is on record saying he is the best lineman he has ever had college or pro. now i know he is alittle bias but he is better than any lineman in this draft. only reason the kid from a&m and central mich get more pub in they are lt. if he is there its a no-brainer for me. he could be the next faneca. not comparing them just saying he could be our lg for 13-15 years. that is what you look for in a 1st round pick in my opinon

 

we will see if the steelers thinks like you because he could be available at 17
i'm going to think that if we stay put at 17 we will draft one between lane johnson jonathan coper or keenan allen , they are three of the few players that can start from day one in a position of need

i would say
1rd cooper/johnson ol or allen wr
2rd woods/patton/opkins wr or jenkins olb
3rd rambo/elam fs
4rd gooden/ collins/ bostic lb or thornthon g
5rd lattimore/gilleslie rb
6rd mcgee/goodman de
7rd kelce/lutzenkircken/stoneburner te
7rdc mathieu/brown/ commings cb