Steelers players that have regressed

Did he have one? I can't recall but must have.

 

That is a nasty and depressing list.

 

Wish they would affect the coaching staff and they would be replaced.

 

at least place them on injured reserve.

 

#5: 80% of the league plays the same type of scheme. It limits the big plays downfield.
#7: Harris had 100+ yds, can't blame the RB for dropped passes that hit Pickens in the hands (or facemask). Attitude- agreed
#8: Jones is raw and the learning curve might end up being as lengthy as Moore's.

 

Agree almost exactly with everything.

But I would like to say that I am not sold on Pickens as a #1 at all. Not just because of his (#2attitude - haha) but he has not proved anything and it seems people think he can be like CeeDee Lamb or something and until he’s consistent, runs the FULL route tree like Lamb, and drops the diva attitude (he can’t and won’t, it is his nature) then he will be more Martavious Bryant than anything else.

 

I don't think many of players have regressed. Jones is one that comes to mind as a clear regression. I definitely had higher hopes for him. Najee was just overrated his first 3 years, he kinda just is who he's always been (though his week against the Raiders was his best ever) so I don't see regression. I haven't noticed Benton in a negative fashion. Pickens is definitely having more of a personality issue than game issue. He had some of the same struggles last year because he was pouting due to Kenny sucking. Minkah isn't getting the turnovers (a lot of which I think is on the scheme from our bad OC), but I don't see a regression in how he comes to play...

 

1. Obviously
2. See #1
3. See #1 and #2
4. Eh, I just think he's a mediocre back. He'd have a lot of the same struggles on another team
5. Our DC sucks IMO. Its a travesty we let Flores walk out the door and made this guy our DC... Bad decision. Have to wonder if Tomlin makes hires that he knows he can micromanage/control. We haven't done a good job hiring NFL quality coordinators of late.
6. I don't see him in a negative manner. Am I missing something?
7. Definitely more of a personality thing than game thing. Being the only WR that needs to be accounted for isn't helping
8. Dude got worse. Not sure why it is. Hard to claim its being lazy when we don't see the work these guys put in day to day, but he is definitely missing something because he was a better player last season.

 

Austin was the DC before Flores came to the Steelers, Flores got a promotion of course he wasn't going to stay here.

 

No they weren't. Most media pundits had them finishing last in the division and missing the playoffs.

 

For example =

"ESPN gave the Steelers just an 8.1% chance to win the division and a 29% chance of making the playoffs, with a projected win total of 7.9.

John Breech of CBS Sports predicts Head Coach Mike Tomlin will suffer his first losing season in 18 years."

Vegas had the over/under at 8.5 wins.

No one overrated this team, not even most of the "fans."

 

Steelers are not going to win a playoff game at Houston, at Buffalo or at KC. Not gonna happen. So whether Steelers are overrated or underrated is moot.

 

Maybe their first playoff game could be at home this season .

 

Then don't waste your time watching them.

 

I'll watch them like I always do....but Steelers fans are in the same situation as Cowboys fans. We love our teams but are faced with the reality that a playoff loss , one and done, is the best the team can achieve.

 

I might be making excuses, but here we go ...

Najee seems to be alternating between low production and high production. I have the feeling that he has been playing at less than 100 percent due to injury, but is toughing it out because Warren and Patterson have been injured.

Minkah is doing fine I think. He is less splashy now because he has more help out there and they are making some of the big plays. His real benefit is his experience and leadership. When he is off the field, our secondary sucks. He is the glue that keeps everyone together.

Pickens suffers from a lack of a secondary receiving threat. He had DJ last year. Now he gets stuck with the best defender ever play and usually has 1 to 2 others nearby ready to help guard him.

Can't say on the others.

 

We will see. All it would take is an injury to one of those starting QBs. Not that I'm wishing for that.

 

The 3 that come to mind for me immediately is Pickens, Queen, and Jones... probably too soon to include Warren due to health but disappointing none the less.

A lot of people said Queen would be avg at best in Pitt due to the fact he no longer has the best D-line and ILB playing next to him. So I don't think this is a surprise that Queen is just OK, he's still not the run stuffer / pass defender we saw last year. He's better than the garbage we have been running out there but we still clearly have issues up the middle. There is still time for Queen to get comfortable and find his groove so I'm holding off judgement for now. I don't expect him to be a stud but I think he has not played his best football yet. Slow start might be fair.

Pickens and Jones just stink of immaturity. I question the work these two have put in to get better. It looks very much like they just assumed they were future stars and knew they had a job this year. Pickens ball skills have slipped. sure he's dealing with a bad QB but it does not seem like he's getting open like an elite WR should be... he's talking a lot of trash for someone that has proved NOTHING. He has time to wake up and prove he's an elite WR but as of now he's nothing but a nice #2 IMO that disappears way too often. Makes too many mistakes too.

I'm surprised our Run defense is not better. We're ranked in the middle but 4.3 yards per carry is not good and I also think opponents have figured something out with our defense. Hope Im wrong but it looks like we are going in the wrong direction. For anyone with a good memory , do you recall someone (maybe James Harrison) saying basically f you are getting worse as the season plays then the blame lies with the coaches.? We've seen regression out of plenty of Tomlin teams... This team reminds me of last year when we were like 6-3 and people were saying our record is way better than it should be. We were a bad team with a good record. I see similarities. think we went on to lose 3 in a row once we were exposed.

 

Pickens hasn't regressed in my opinion, but he hasn't progressed either. I don't blame coaching. I blame his attitude that he feels he doesn't need to, because he already thinks he's an elite receiver. Some people compare him to AB because all some people remember about AB is that he became a diva/troublemaker later in his career. There's no comparison. AB was a route running technician that made defenders look silly at times. AB worked very hard at perfecting his craft, and took pride in it. All Pickens does is make some highlight reel circus catches once in a while. You know who didn't make a lot of circus catches in his career? Jerry Rice. He didn't need to because a lot of the time the defender was no longer anywhere near him. He was famously one of the hardest workers in the NFL throughout his career, because he was always trying to get better. That's why he's the GOAT.

Meanwhile Pickens puts on eye black that says "always fing open" Here's some news for you George. No you're not.

 

I was not aware Cam was playing that well this year

 

Exactly. We have been pick by most of the media to be last in the division 3 years straight. Shows what the media knows.

 

This is called moving the goal post my friend.

 

I heard the same in 2005.

 

Oh hellz no. Steelers went on a losing streak that year, but rebounded nicely and were only 8 months removed from an AFC Championship. The current Steelers haven't sniffed and AFC Championship in 8 years.

2005 Steelers and 2024 Steelers are apples and oranges. The 05 team is far superior. Not even close.

Do you remember what happened that year? The Maddox pick 6 vs Jags in OT? Ben out with injury for couple of games, etc. I think I destroyed a TV remote after that Maddox pick 6.