Elandon Roberts on PFF

But it cost the DPOY for Watt for some reason

 

I think there is a lot of “outside noise” that is created by the sports media, much of which is largely ignored by the teams themselves.

 

How is Elandon doing this year?

 

How is that relevant to the thread?

He seems to be doing fine. He is doing what they ask of him, helping an improved run defense. His role is diminished because they aren't forced to use him on passing downs with Queen and Wilson.

 

Payton Wilson is playing a lot more than I expected this year. Talk about getting the most bang for your buck with your 2nd 3rd round pick.

 

Problem is ....the same media that creates this noise is the same media that votes for these stupid awards. Like MVP, DPOY, and so on.

 

my you are an arrogant SOB. It's a thread about Elandon Robertson. Just ignore anything I post

 

Bingo. And a lot of these voters have agendas, biases, etc. They don't review game tape or even get to see most of the guys they vote for or against.. they rely on the word of their colleagues and stat sites like PFF to make their judgements.

 

PFF = look at me we use analytics...

 

Thanks. Glad to see he's coming along

 

I'm not sure how that qualifies as arrogant but so be it.

The thread seemed to be about his comments regarding PFF, which were enlightening. I know some fans here have been down on him because other than the sack, his contributions have been quieter. I thought you were among them. I think that is because he simply isn't playing as much, which makes him stand out less often. They had to play him every down once the injuries hit last year. I thought you were questioning the validity of his opinion by suggesting he wasn't doing well. If I misread that, I apologize.

 

That's fair. I probably misread the post. I thought that because some fans here have been down on him. I just responded and apologized if that is the case.

 

Yeah. He can be explosive when he gets to blitz. The run defense has been very good and he is a big part of that on first and second down. Dobbins had been tearing it up. The Steelers mostly shut him down. His longest run of the game came on a play when the defense had only 10 men on the field. (Sloppy by the player who was supposed to be out there and the coaches, but indicative of just how good they have been against the run so far.)

 

No, it's ignored by players, not by the teams. Analytics is a huge aspect of sports these days. It's not ignored by teams, although I don't think teams give a **** about PFF grades.

 

PFF grades are virtually useless, especially for skill positions where they can’t possibly know assignments on a given play. I very much doubt any coach or player even looks at them for any reason other than curiousity.

It’s baffling how much they have infiltrated media analysis though. TJ would have at least one more DPOY if it wasn’t for PFF convincing people that subjective stats like ‘pass rush win rate’ matter more than making actual plays.

 

I can appreciate your point about analytics and agree that those are part of the game.

My point was more about all of these new “stats” developed by PFF and others.

 

Right on!

 

Too much analytics… someone needs to analyze the analytics

 

Some mean people on here! Rough crowd. Its all fun and games until someone loses an eye

 

Sir, you have just earned this
I seen you apologized… so you only need to ride the short bus one day! And remember never Ass U me

 

The game is play on the field not on the stupid analytics!

 

I saw a quote somewhere that I liked -

“If you torture data long enough, it will confess to anything”.

Said another way, data can be manipulated to say anything.