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My thoughts on preseason wk 3

Discussion in 'Steelers Talk' started by blackandgoldpatrol, Aug 24, 2024.

  1. Busman

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    Not sure what type of injury Broderick Jones has but I think it was foolish to play him. Will he be able to heal while playing? I doubt it
     
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  2. Arch Stanton

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    Yeah, he's still not getting much punch. He gave up 2 sacks on one series yesterday. Not really sure why he's out there, should've sat out the entire pre-season
     
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  3. blackandgoldpatrol

    blackandgoldpatrol Well-Known Member

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    The only thing I can say is that what I've seen so far is a far cry from what Jones showed me last season......take a look at his film last yr as opposed to right now and tell me that the arm isn't bothering him... it's painfully (pun definitely intended) obvious
     
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  4. Born2Steel

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    There is something going on with him and his arm. We can all see that. Doesn't mean he's being put at risk of continuing to damage it more, should be shut down for the season, or anything anywhere near that. He could end up injuring a knee due to over-compensating with his legs to make up for lack of reach. Still can't shut him down so he doesn't risk that though. And then for 'fans' to put all that on the HC like he made this happen in the first place. THEY are keeping up with him and THEY know what's going on and what's best.

    That's my opinion.
     
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  5. S.T.D

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    Looking to see if we pick up a CB, Wr, and Tackle in cuts. This may show what they really think.
     
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  6. blackandgoldpatrol

    blackandgoldpatrol Well-Known Member

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    Personally, I want nothing to do with a player that couldn't make another team
     
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  7. steelersrule6

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    Wasn't Joe Haden a late preseason cut that the Steelers signed?
     
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  8. S.T.D

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    So one example off the top of my head: You hated James Harrison???
    Some of these guys don't make it on other teams .....not because they can't play,,but because teams have an abundance of that position. We've seen this throughout the history of the NFL.
     
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  9. Rollers

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    There are a lot of reasons good players get cut. Man there are a ton of guys out there cut by other teams having great careers
     
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  10. Rollers

    Rollers Well-Known Member

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    See? This why I like you. You're smart!
     
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  11. S.T.D

    S.T.D Well-Known Member

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    Smart a$$ maybe. LoL , but sometimes (not always) some guys slip through the cracks because a team has an abundance of that position, and they don't have the time, and the want to work with them.....especially when they have to work on the weaknesses , and not the strengths of their own teams...James Harrison is not even the 1st, or the 100th player this has happened with.
    Added....Not everyone fits the same schemes.
     
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  12. Steelersfan43

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    or Kevin Dotson....I know he was not cut by the steelers but it would been the case if the steelers would been unable to trade him
     
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  13. Rollers

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    I know. I said the exact same thing above your post!!! I should have checked 1st. Unbelievable how many high quality starters were cut and starred elsewhere
     
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  14. steelersrule6

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    Mike Hilton was cut by New England IIRC.
     
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  15. Steelersfan43

    Steelersfan43 Well-Known Member

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    Kurt Warner by the packers in 1994
     
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  16. AskQuestionsLater

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    Question for you.


    How does an Offensive Tackle block?! Arms correct?! What constitutes as a part of the arm?! Shoulder, elbow and wrist. What position does Broderick Jones play?! Offensive Tackle.


    Has Broderick Jones been wearing that brace for show?! Or is it because he is limiting the amount of pain he is in?!







    Given how Broderick has admitted there are multiple things wrong with him, one thing is very much certain; that brace is needed to limit however much pain Broderick is in. Otherwise, the brace itself wouldn't be needed.
     
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  17. LoneHorseman

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    I disagree about no. 11.







    Just kidding!!!! Still sad though after all these years!!!
     
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  18. Born2Steel

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    Your question, if that really is a question makes no sense. Ask it in a different way I guess.

    1. You need more than arms to play Tackle.
    2. Yes, those are the joints of the arm.
    3. Jones plays RT.
    4. I don't believe Jones has been wearing a brace for show.
    5. I don't know if the brace is limiting his pain or not.

    My turn to ask a non-sense question(s)
    1. What information about Jones' injury makes you say he needs to be shut down?
    2. What exactly are the details of his injury?
    3. Do you know more about his injury and how to treat it than the team medical staff, coaches, trainers, or Jones himself?
     
  19. Steel_Elvis

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    I agree. If he hadn’t show the steady improvement that he showed last season, I’d be more concerned about the long run. However, I’m very concerned about this season since he seems to be unhealthy and unable to play anywhere near 100%.
     
  20. AskQuestionsLater

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    His position is one that is defined by the amount of physical trauma he is going to take. This isn't just limited to his arms. My point was that said arm that has a brace is going to endure pain as well as his entire body. Difference is, given how it is already injured due to the precautions that Broderick Jones has to take to ensure he can play with that arm, to assume that an opposing EDGE cannot hit that elbow, brace or no brace, in a way that causes further damage is very disingenuous to the nature of the position itself. Players who play Offensive Tackle routintely get beat up pretty damn good. The most physical pain they receive though is the arms given that is how they both attack and defend themselves from would be pass rushers. Moreover to the point, at what point did I say he needed shut down?! All I said was "should he be out for the year"; a possible future in which Jones damages that elbow even more so than it already is.



    All that is known is that he has an elbow injury. He has also been on record in stating other forms of nicks and bruises. The exact severity is unknown.



    At what point did I say I was a medical expert at all? Again, my point about the injury pertains to the fact that repeated trauma to that specific part of the arm is going to do far more harm than good. If you re-read what I stated about Broderick and the elbow in question, it was as follows;


    "Whatever ailment that Broderick Jones has will only get worse as the season goes on. Due to that fact, should he be out for the year, that is going to hit his development even more than it already is being done in."


    American Gridiron Football is an inherently violent sport. Injuries are going to happen all the time; regardless of how conditioned an athlete is. Broderick is no exception. However, given the fact that he did sustain an injury to his elbow during Training Camp, to assume that he can finish the season pain free isn't realistic.



    To conclude?! I am not offering the suggestion of shutting Broderick down; me knowing his injury full stop no less. What I am saying is that if a player begins the season injured, he is going to end the season injured. How much so for Broderick's case remains to be seen for the 2024 Season hasn't concluded just yet and never mind began.
     
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  21. SWSteel

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    Way to go on a limb there.....

    :lolol:
     
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  22. Born2Steel

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    And all I question about your posts is why you said Jones should be shut down when none of us know the details on his injury. We honestly don't know why he's wearing the brace other than that's just the first thing you do in football.
    Has Jones looked less than 100%? Yes
    Does he have an elbow injury? Reports say yes
    These are the only facts to this story.
     
  23. AskQuestionsLater

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    Alright man.


    If you don't think that injuries that happen before the season cannot get any worse during the season, I don't know what to say at this point.


    Peace.
     
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  24. Born2Steel

    Born2Steel Well-Known Member

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    Of course they CAN. No reason to shut Jones down just yet though.
     
  25. blackandgoldpatrol

    blackandgoldpatrol Well-Known Member

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    That had nothing to do with him not being able to make the team..... that was more financially based and youth movement oriented
     

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