Justin Fields Pre 2 Analysis

I don't get too worked up about preseason games, but there's not a lot of good here. Fields has a better arm and athleticism than Pickett, but isn't showing progression in his ability to see and throw to open receivers in this film. If he can't take that step, he's a marginal upgrade in the long run.

Continued missed blocking assignments and some less-than-crisp route running aren't helping matters with how this unit is looking as a whole.

 

Guess it's time to "Crater for Carson!!"





Being honest though, it is difficult to evaluate anything about Fields or Wilson. That said, neither are above reproach when it comes to their own shortcomings; both being magnified by the lack of continuity among the Offensive Line. Continuity along the Line though takes a considerable amount of time and is made worse by so many different shuffling forms of personnel.


As I said both before and after the draft, this Offense will go through some growing pains. What I didn't expect was that the pains would be nearly as severe as I thought.

 

I don’t think anyone on the planet with the possible exception of a few members of this board thought his issues would be fixed after 3 weeks of training camp

 

Justin Fields:

 

Couldn't get it to show. Was it positive or negative?

 

Not fixed after 3 years, who in their right mind would think we could fix him in 3 weeks?

 

Exactly. Some fans seem to be treating Fields like he is a rookie. He's been in the league 3 years and this is PRESEASON! Preseason is skewed to give offensive success, and the guy is struggling with what appear to be some basic looks and NFL throws. Throws that should be 1, 2, 3 out are 1, 2, 3, bounced around, bail.

Timid, not trusting his eyes, slow processing, late... all things he was lambasted for in Chi-town. Oh, but he was a great runner....

 

KFP jr, but hey, he can run…whatevs

 

Played against guys in last preseason game against Bills, that will be selling cars in a couple of weeks and done nothing. Im a hater for seeing thro clear eyes. Its a joke.

 

Let me dampen it further by reminding that Fields got the majority of snaps in camp while Wilson was a gimp.

If Wilson cannot beat Fields for the start, I fear this offense is gonna look very, very, and maybe even very, ugly for the first month of the season... (maybe beyond).

 

Hate to say it… after 3 years , Bears had enough. Maybe his 4 yr he can turn it around. My personal opinion is he is no better than KFP. But he can run
Also, keep in mind, Fields played the whole 2nd half against 3 and 4 stringers

 

We need a QB, not another running back. We have 2 pretty good RB's right now, maybe even 3. Now if only that O-line can open up some holes for them

 

The issue with Fields is not his ability to process. If the play holds up he has scored 54TDs in 3 seasons.

The issue with Fields is once the play goes sideways. He turns the ball over way too much. 30INTs and a total 38 fumbles with losing 25 of those.

A year behind Russ learning to run the Arthur Smith offense may be the exact situation Justin Fields needs.

 

The thing is, Fields had 3 years of experience to improve upon that glaring weakness of turning the ball over way too much, but he didn't. I don't see how watching Russ from the sideline is going to help him in that regard. No, the only way he'll possibly learn is to actually be out there. With the way the Steelers O-line has played so far, I don't see Russ lasting more than a few games, so Fields might get a chance to show some improvement in that area sooner than later

 

Fields will never be a high level passer in the NFL. I don’t think anybody expects that?

He is a poor mans Lamar Jackson. And that’s not saying Lamar is a great passer

 

If people were expecting Justin Fields to magically turn into Russell Wilson after being less than a year with the likes of Tom Arth in addition to learning a brand new Offense, that isnt how a project like Justin Fields works. For that matter, using three years of experience in the NFL by itself means little to nothing overall if the overall structure around the QB is as stable as a bridge made from nothing but cardboard and duct tape. As I said, the Offense will go through growing pains; Justin Fields included. Half of this is no doubt on him but lets not exempt Chicago for any of this; they themselves let Fields down far more than Fields did himself in.



The fact that Fields has to relearn something as basic as mechanics should speak volumes as to how much Chicago royally effed up his development. Expecting Tom Arth to be the likes of Steve Clarkson, Sean McVay or even the likes of Andy Reid is beyond unreal. Jalen Hurts had to be retuned via Shane Steichen. Hurts needed time to get acclimated despite his athletic gifts. Look at what has happened since Steichen left; Hurts got worse. Even worse?! Hurts has a far superior offense than Fields ever did during his time in Chicago.


Long story short?! R-E-L-A-X. Relax. This isnt Madden where things can be fixed in an instant. Three years of done by Chicago is going to take time. As much as many hate that (myself included) that is basically what Fields is currently; an ultra talented but broken QB in dire need of a tune up. Should this still continue?!?!?.....


Start over.

 

Who do you think is more physically gifted, Hurts or Fields?

 

Gimmick. Maybe he will turn the corner?

Tomlin loves him. Until the turnovers start turning over.

Wilson seems to be playing for? His legacy? Although I will take 26 TD's and 8 picks this season. If he plays up to expectations you have to open the check book next season. Two year deal. Draft a QB. Maybe trade up. The Kenny pick set them back. As well as bringing Mitch in.

A slight losing record 8-9 would give them a better chance at getting that franchise who can sit back and learn.

I know its 2024. Just looking at the whole pie and there is some slivers missing. Maybe a slice.

Playoffs or the loss. Can't just have another winning season trophy.

 

Fields by far.


Fields' overall talent was never to be questioned during his time both at Ohio State and in Chicago. It is the lack of consistency that has been Fields' biggest problem. Hurts is more powerful than Fields as far as running goes but not to the same degree of physical talent Fields is; throwing included.

 

Interesting, I figured you'd say Fields. He was definitely much more sought after than Hurts coming out of college, that's for sure. Do you think that Fields can overcome his short comings here in Pittsburgh, and become a top 10 QB? I think he can, if he can clean up those turnovers. The guy has all the physical gifts to be great, maybe not Michael Vick kind of talent, but pretty close

 

Depends honestly on a lot of factors sadly. Unlike other position which usually are dependant on a couple of factors (Corners need the pass rush, Linebackers need the IDL, Receivers need the QB, etc.) a QBs success is dependant by the entire organization as a whole. Thankfully, Pittsburgh does draft and develop Offensive Talent far better than Chicago (dont let the mismangement of Kevin Dotson and Kendrick Green fool you) and still possesses one of the best Defenses in the League. Cameron Johnston may be the MVP of the team when it is all said and done for 2024 due to the types of games Tomlin wants to win; brutal and ugly.



On the other hand?! Fields is broken right now. Not completely thankfully but still very much in need of time and development to get him back on track to his glory days at Ohio State which made him a top 10 pick. Tom Arth, Mike Sullivan (people tend to forget about him) and Arthur Smith are what I believe to be the right people. However, Smiths Offense is going to need time in it of itself due to the new personnel; doubly so on the Offensive Line.



In conclusion?! Do I believe Justin Fields can be saved?! I do. Do I also believe Fields may likely flame out still?! Without a doubt.

 

I hear what you're saying, it's more of a mental thing with Fields. Once you lose that confidence in yourself it's difficult to overcome, no matter how much talent you have. I agree it's going to be a boom or bust situation for Fields here in Pittsburgh, I just hope he gets the opportunity to live up to his full potential. The one area that I'm not sure about him overcoming is his inability to see open receivers, and deliver the ball in a timely manner on a consistent basis. That may be the most important talent that a QB can possess

 

He's missing basic plays that a 3 year starter should see in preseason. He's more than broken.