Cam Heyward does not plan to attend OTAs as he seeks a contract extension.

You probably aren't wrong, but he isn't without leverage. One thing he has is the big cap number for this season. The Steelers probably want to reduce that. The other is that they don't want to cut him. That defensive line looks even shakier without him, but he may also be counting on the public relations aspect of it. I hope that isn't guiding their decisions, but I can understand him thinking that Payton Man of the Year Award gives him a little protection.

 

Stop being like Jeff Gordon and butthurt you are not smart enough to realize what he meant.

 

Mr. failed writer would argue with a wall just to have the last word.

 

I'll be happy to compare brain pans with either of you any day. That I know better than him doesn't mean I didn't understand his point, but I am happy to mock him for botching his grammar and punctuation while playing spelling police.

 

Probably not. Maybe they sign one of the remaining free agent corners and extend Freiermuth or one of the team's other players who will be free agents after the 2024 season, but they can probably do that with the money they freed up by restructuring Highsmith.

 

Mash, I suggest you go back and read the back-and-forth between you and I. Sometimes words matter. I was able to point to examples (from Cam himself) to the first couple of iterations of your 'question' - while still validating your reservations in trusting he could continue to produce at 35+. You continued to add qualifiers until you hit on '32+ DL with injury-riddled year' and are now appear to be peacocking on it, which seems silly at this point.

 

It's the same question and you can't answer it.

 

And neither can you. Go find a 32+ aged DL matching Heyward's productivity record, had a season mostly lost to injury, got healthy, played the next season and saw significant decline in production.

It's just a lazy/disingenuous argument from you at this point.

 

This you

 

Fred Dean great 31, 32 had injury riddled season, 33 sucked and was done.
charles haley, great all the way up to 32 injury season, then after misses so much he should have retired when he was 32.
deacon jones great until he was 32 and then injury riddled season. and again another player who should have retired
jason taylor
julius peppers at 35 injury riddled and it never stopped.
Dwight freeny tried so hard for 5 years and only had one season that was good, however he was still injured through out it.
John Randle
Charles Haley
Richard dent

and that is listing players who tried to come back. I did not list players like
Geno Atkins
richard seymour
and many others
because they knew it was a slim chance to come back to making a difference like they used to.


Michael Strahan is an in-between player for you and I. injury riddled, but did come back to go AP, but he went back and forth with good and bad season.

by the way, a player I would have been fine with you saying is warren sapp. but he had one good and then one bad and he knew has done.
could have even said JJ watt or Reggie white.

I could keep going. but I clearly proved a point with a long list vs only 2.5 who proved me wrong. Cam has maybe a 25% he can play close to a full season next year and be close to what he was 2 years ago. and then after that, you can kiss it to being slim to none. specially with how he thinks he can do 3 years.

 

You lost an argument and made yourself look foolish, so your response is to attack someone's career. That's low.

 

Try using a verb next time. You might not sound as dumb as you are.

 

Nice list, Mash. There were honestly a few I had forgotten or was plain unaware had injuries later on.

If he stays healthy (not a given) I could see Cam being in the neighborhood of 2022, likely with less sacks - more in the 6-8 range than 10.5 - which would still be solid. (Poor value against his cap hit for sure, but that's a slightly different issue since the team end-loaded his salary before pushing more money down via restructure in 2021.) The question is whether they want to keep keep spinning the wheel past that, and how much they think its worth.

Like I said, I'm against anything multi-year unless there are serious snap and performance triggers. It's just too much risk. I understand players have limited career windows, and the heart continues to want what the body can no longer deliver. But the team is honoring the contract despite any concerns last year might have brought, and I'm sure they're smart enough to know Cam's not likely going to post a $22M valuation in 2024.

 

That's where I'm at, is what's he worth.

he won't be worth the numbers and years he's trying. Could he be a freak like a couple names who go to 38? Sure. But the odds are against him once he had a season like last year.

Until he proves he's a freak, I could not offer him an extension.

 

https://x.com/PPP_Benjamin/status/1794081743990837406?t=bCMU0Ppsi_iC3KETJHl44w&s=19


No way this is real. But I also thought that about the way he was acting like week.

 

Consider the source a lot of these no name people or sites make stuff up for clicks.

 

Maybe the last year, but he was washed 5 years before this, Won nothing was paid mucho money for winning nothing.

 

Read the post directly below your post I am quoting here. That is why I brought up 2018 in my earlier post. People keep saying ridiculous stuff and claiming Ben sucked long before he retired.

They don't know what they are talking about, and anyone that believes having Ben on the team held them back in any way never understood how great he really was.

 

zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

 

It is clear you don't understand much. Do better, troll.

 

Guess they could’ve dumped him for some scrub and won less.

 

He was over paid for past performance. Sorta of like a golden parachute that executives get. Very nice (severance pay?)