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Could Matt Barkley become a Pittsburgh Steeler?

Discussion in 'The Bill Nunn Draft Room' started by JackAttack 5958, Jan 19, 2013.

  1. JackAttack 5958

    JackAttack 5958 Well-Known Member

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    This article indicates that it could be a possibility and I like the idea. I don't think we should draft him in the first round but should he drop to the second round, I'd be all for taking a flyer on him even if we have to trade up to draft him. I think it would be a good situation for Barkley since he won't be ready to start day one and it would be a great insurance policy for the Steelers should our $100 million QB succumb to a serious injury due to his physical style of play.

    http://sports.gather.com/viewArticle.action?articleId=281474981839336
     
  2. mac daddyo

    mac daddyo Well-Known Member

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    thats a good question. i brought that up in another thread and most were against it. i said if landry jones was there in the 2nd or 3rd, i'd have to think about it. i don't see a big deal in taking one this year. we need two.:cool:
     
  3. noitall0605

    noitall0605 Well-Known Member

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    I have watched him play for years. He is terrible. That Pitt Sunseri is better player than Jones
     
  4. gpguy

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    NO! I'd say no to a 1st or 2nd rounder on a QB, a 3rd I probably wouldnt have an issue with, but thats about it.
     
  5. turkeysniper

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    i want to start the zac dysert bandwagon. never watched him play but 6-4 230, comes from bens alma mater, nfl.com grades him third in the QB's and he's under the radar still right now. potential to pick him up in later rounds.
     
  6. freakfontana

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    i like r .nassyb and c. klein
     
  7. Steel_Elvis

    Steel_Elvis Staff Member Mod Team

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    To say that I simply "disagree" with that article is a pretty dramatic understatement. Ben is a solid 4-5 years from retirement - easily - unless some unpredictable, catastrophic injury occurs, and that type of injury can happen to anyone. While I do think that he will continue to miss games here and there, the target should be a solid backup who can lead us to wins, not the next franchise QB. We have 2-3 more years, at least, before we should be focusing on a franchise QB in the draft. I am all-in on the sign Matt Moore bandwagon. He's the best backup out there, and could hold down the fort for several weeks if need be.
     
  8. mac daddyo

    mac daddyo Well-Known Member

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    why does everyone assume that a draft pick is to take bens place and the next franchise qb? we need a good backup for now.

    we have 1st 2nd and 3rd rounders at other positions that don't start, why wouldn't we want a backup qb that has some possible upside for down the road? there are not alot of star quality backups out there that we can just pickup or that we can afford to start with. a draft pick is not as big of cost to the cap.

    if the kid happens to become so good we can't keep him off the field even at the expense of ben, well we hit one heck of a grand slam then. i seriously doubt it though. you guys that think ben isn't going to start declining at some point need to wake up. it happens to all of them at some point. nobody is saying ben is near that point, but charlie and lefty are.:cool:
     
  9. Jim90

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    No thanks, with our O-line troubles this guy needs both, arm strength and Mobility.

    I'd rather wait for the Clemmons tiger QB Tajh Boyd. He should be in next years draft.
     
  10. Steel_Elvis

    Steel_Elvis Staff Member Mod Team

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    I'm not opposed to spending a draft pick on a QB, but not a 1st rounder, and probably not a 2nd rounder either. Certainly a big part of that is I am not enamored with any of the QBs in this year's draft. I honestly think that next year, we may see the worst year for rookie QBs that we have seen in at least 5 years. Barkley is pretty far along mentally, but there are question marks about his physical abilities. Nassib is the guy that impresses me the most, but I see him in Buffalo - probably with their 8th overall pick.
     
  11. mac daddyo

    mac daddyo Well-Known Member

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    several guys have good percentages over their whole college careers at winning programs during their time. jones is one. dysert is one. a guy i like alot is e.j. manuel. he could be had in the 5th. i think he could become a good backup qb for us.:cool:
     
  12. JackAttack 5958

    JackAttack 5958 Well-Known Member

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    Exactly, mac. Look at what the Skins did in last year's draft. After picking RG3 in the first they went out and got Kirk Cousins in the third because they realize the value of having a quality backup with a lot of upside. That decision pretty much saved their season when Cousins came in and won a game or two for them when RG3 was hurt. And depending how quickly RG3 comes back from his serious knee injury Cousins may go into next season as the Redskins' starting QB!

    The second round is not too high to draft a good quality backup to Ben who may develop into the starter once Ben's body goes out, which I believe will be sooner than many of us think.
     
  13. SteelByDesign

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    People here amaze me. We have holes at starting positions at WR, RB, OG, OLB, ILB, and S... but hey let's take a backup quarterback that will play maybe 2 games per season until he leaves in free agency because he wants to start.
     
  14. lersgofor7

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    :this!: :applaud:
     
  15. mac daddyo

    mac daddyo Well-Known Member

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    we have starting wr's. we have starting safeties. we have a starting G. we have starting OLB. we have starting RB's. now backups are a different story. you have to include qb in that spot too. we have none. you named 6 positions we have 8 picks.:cool:
     
  16. JackAttack 5958

    JackAttack 5958 Well-Known Member

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    What amazes me is that we seem to be perfectly content with Methuselah and Rip Van Winkle, or some other castoff, as our backup QB. The $100 million QB could be gone in an instant with his style of play. For crying out loud, he almost punctured his aorta this year. I hope Ben has a few good years left but unless he learns to use his brain a little more and his body a little less who knows?!

    It's time to draft a good, young QB that has the potential to develop as an effective starter!
     
  17. turkeysniper

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    we tend to think about the roster from the last thing we saw, what we have locked up now. if we expect to win the superbowl next year then the end of next season is over a year away. i don't see anything that assures me about either of our starting olb being on the field that long from now. troy either for that matter, or foote. although a healthy, young, gelling o-line means a lot ben no lock either. ben has missed significant time or played significantly subpar due to injury for several seasons now. the right back-up in the 4th or later would be a good thing(preferably 5th) depending on who else is there.
     
  18. turkeysniper

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    it's been at least 4 for the last three years. feeling more confident about the game plan while ben is out would go a long way.
     
  19. blackandgoldpatrol

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    We have too many holes to fill elsewhere to think about draftin a young back-up qb..... personally, i'm hoping we bring jerrod johnson back next season
     
  20. GB_Steel

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    I don't think you spend a Day 1 or 2 pick on a QB until you are getting close to needing a starter. We're not there yet. What we should be doing is dedicating a Day 3 pick on a QB and a couple FA spots to QB's, keeping the best two for the season, and repeating the process every year until we find one that shows some promise. Then, when our franchise QB is close to done (say about 2 years out, i.e. 35 years old-ish) we look to the first round to take his replacement, unless one of those throw-away QB's we were kicking the tires on each year pans out.

    So, no to Barkley, or any other QB in the first 5 rounds. We need to focus on improving our entire roster so that when our franchise QB is playing we're putting teams away by a good margin of victory, and that when our QB does go down, that the rest of our roster is good eneough to fight its way to a close victory. Our current team isn't good enough overall to win games with anyone other than Ben Roethlisberger, and no QB outside of the 1st round this year is going to change that without significant growth and reps.

    I'd look at QB no sooner than round 6 this year. And I'd bump that round up each year the older Ben gets.
     
  21. mac daddyo

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    i'd have no trouble with manuel in the 5th. he's a big dude. good % career long. can run some.

    i think thats going to be important if we go as you say. these first guys have to have some run in them. it can help move the chains.:cool:
     
  22. GB_Steel

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    I'd be cool with Manuel in the 5th. I think his career completion percentage is very indicitive of a promising pro career, and there isn't much difference between the 5th and 6th, especially if we can get someone with his skills. It seems as if he's the forgotten QB in this draft, with all the media talk going to the other guys.
     
  23. Nah85

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    Think about the long term goal in hitting a gem with a QB possibly early in the draft is that they are great trade bait for the future.
     
  24. Blast Furnace

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    Solid post! 100% correct :applaud:
     
  25. SteelByDesign

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    You're insane.

    Antonio Brown is the only legit starter we have at WR, and I think he'd make a better #2. Emmanuel Sanders has shown flashes, but not sure he can be an every down guy. After that? Ummm...

    Rumors are Colon is getting cut, and Foster is a free agent. So we have DeCastro with what? 3 NFL starts and MAYBE Beachum who's never played OG.

    We have ONE starting OLB for 2 spots. Harrison is gone, and Worilds is a bust.

    Dwyer is the only RB we have that I trust, and he's had weight issues.

    Troy misses way more games than Ben, and is much closer to the end of his career. Clark is getting up there as well.




    You just dismissed my post saying we're okay at those positions, but you're completely wrong on all accounts.
     

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