sam howell

It depends on the cost, but I would like to see them bring in Howell to compete with Pickett. I'm just not sure Tomlin will tolerate an approach like Howell's. If they bring him in, they need to accept turnovers are going to happen a little more often. Hell, they need to make it clear to Pickett that the occasional mistake is okay, too.

I know people thing I've always been some huge Pickett fan, but I wrote way back on that draft day that I wanted Linderbaum or Dax Hill. I didn't think Pickett was a bad choice and I was very happy that they didn't take Willis, but I would have been happiest coming out of that draft if they had taken Linderbaum first and Howell in the third or fourth round. I also knew that wasn't going to happen because they didn't even bother with the Iowa pro day.

 

The irony is Baker was the millioneth or so starter with the Brownies and lead the team to the playoffs, playing through injury. Not saying he would have been worth the going rate QB's were getting, but still he did more than any previous QB. Enter the guaranteed contract guy, who can't/won't play because of various injuries (warranted or not).

Final determination...for some happy endings are demanded and received.

 

I was on record with interest in Howell during the draft. Not as a 1st round pick. We could have had Pickett in the 2nd. Howell went in the 5th.

The guys above are Franchise QB and both HOFers. I do understand what your saying about stats. If he was released I would bring him in for an interview. Could be a #3.

But I feel its going to be Pickett, Tannehill and a rookie.

 

I get your angle. I'm pretty much same.
Sam Howell is actually in the Terry Bradshaw model. Tough, can run, arm like a howitzer... will gun it too.
He throws to anyone open or even close to open.
He's got a bum rap in Washington. Still the kid threw just shy of 4K yards.
If even there was a team that should be forced to forfeit a season, Washington is among the front runners. Pure trash.
It would be good to see the new owners do it right though.

I like Pickett too.
I know he slipped but unlike some, I haven't forgotten his highlights.
You guys probably know I'm in tight with Norv Turner and some others... I watched Scott from the time he played peewee football.
Norv is too much a classy guy to be brutally honest about Canada's idea of an offense.
I don't think Pickett or Howell either has the ceiling of a Josh Allen, but I think in the right systems you would get some solid results.
I've heard the Raiders are interested in Howell... if you can get by the goofy haircut the owner has, that might be a good fit too.

I'm kind of thinking the Steelers might be able to wrangle Penix out of this draft. I guess we'll see as the draft nears.

 

I don't think they are going to release Howell and I doubt he would be a No. 3, but I'd certainly be very happy if that ended up happening.

 

yes 21 int are bad .if you only look at the number

He had 4 multi int game. One vs buffalo was 4 int and sacked 9 times
2nd vs giants was 3 int and sacked 4 times
3rd vs sf was 2 int and sacked 2 times
4th vs dallas 2int and sacked 4 times
In 4 games he threw 11 int and sacked 19 times. Those 4 games resulted in half his sack
Without those 4 games he was 18td to 10int 3200 pass yds
steelers were 13/9 34 3421 pass yds in 17 games

Receivers could be the fault for int but qb get blamed. Running wrong routes, slip during routes and the ball going thru their hands. Int can alson be result of hailmarry pass.

He was a 1st year starter who threw the ball a avg of 35 plus a game(never a good thing for young qb) in a pass happy offense. On a team that game up, trade best pass rushers and is complete terrible run organization

The cost will be a 3rd or two draft picks. I would do it.

You want to be like the 49ers and chiefs, these are the types of move you need the get better
sf needed LT traded for trent williams, play maker offensive player Mc caffrey. even tried two get future Qb giving up draft picks
Kc trade pick for orlando brown, and moved up in draft to get their qb from 27 Pick to 10

So please explain to me like my name is Jeffrey and 4 years old. Why some people on the board treasure draft picks that done nothing in the nfl over a player that is better our Qb 1

 

Yet those 4 games DID happen

 

Yeah, I'm just thinking how well Sam excelled yes in college but right now it's like the Steelers have the exact personnel on offense he had then at UNC.
2 pretty damn good RB, Talented WR corp including TE and he preformed behind a questionable line and still produced because of the weapons around him.
Add his scramble, pocket awareness, keeping eyes downfield and run for a lot of real estate.
Also, 2 years younger than this joke of a 7 year college , ceiling reached, ghost seeing QB we have here currently. UGH.
Odds are it won't happen but an OC with UNC roots too just makes it all click.

 

yes they did. You a right, what i was trying to show is his stats in the other 12 games were better than we got from our qbs.

 

Hey man, if sacks don't count no mo than ints no count no mo.

The man has Moxie. Tons more than bigk

You keep pimpin Pickett tho
enjoy mediocre QB play all day

 

Is Pickett's competition already on roster. Ladies and gentlemen i give you Jack Colletto

 

If you take away his four bad games, his numbers aren't bad. LOL

 

In addition to ignoring interceptions, you are ignoring the games the Steelers won with Pickett in 2023 and his entire rookie season, too.

I like Howell, but your claim about moxie is nonsense. It is like the idiot Yankee fans who blather on and on about Derek Jeter's intangibles, focusing on something ill-defined so they can make up whatever they want.

 

You can't just leave off the turnovers though. I know I keep saying this all over the board, but it's strategically easier to win a football game if the Qb scores no tds....than if He just turns the ball over. Thats why a lot of coaches hate turnovers.

 

No, we’ve already tried someone else’s castoff with terrible results. Let’s see if our own pick works first

 

I Didn't ignore your interceptions, more like a play on the Watt DPOY voting ignoring sacks. sheeesh
Hey, its all good. Hoping the best for bigk.
TWT

 

MT is always concerned with turnovers. You have to minimize turnovers and play stout defense. This is what we have
seen the last 3years. KP and whoever have to find that fine line of aggressiveness.

 

Have we ever had any luck in developing the QB position from our QB selections? Other than Ben
that had God given ability?

 

No but little Heyward better keep his nose to the grindstone.

 

Wrong!

 

This is why a competent pass game coordinator was so high on my list and why I can't wait
to see a 21rst century passing game with routes that give our QB and WR's a chance to be successful.
This is paramount. We get that center an OT and play calling that lets are players be successful we have nice
talent on offense.

 

i thought that is why they brought in glenn thomas last year. only one of our three qbs improved. mason looked better and the other two declined. i just saw an article about daniel jones being thought about. i'm sure it's just some guys prediction but ewwwww hell no. we need to quit going to the bottom feeder teams to get players to add. trubisky was a waste. colbert should never be involved again i hope with picking qb's for this team. bring rudolph back at a team friendly deal if possible, let pickett compete but guarantee nothing to any of them and then either draft one or bring in somebody that would help the cause instead of hurt it.

 

Hate to break it to you, but every nfl player has god given ability. Also your claim about developing is complete and utter bull****. We haven’t had to “develop” a qb in nearly two decades. In addition outside of Jordan Love quarterbacks aren’t developed anymore. They’re thrown into the fire and then people like yourself ***** and moan

 

Your probably right he will still be a Commander. As far as a #3 I stated that if he was released because I believe that Tannehill will be the #2. All just hypothetical at this point but I feel the path will be Pickett starting, Tannehill the #2 as a mentor due to the Smith influence and a rookie.

 

Pickett did fail in that regard, but at least some of the blame for that goes on the coaching staff. If you pound into a young quarterback's head that he has to avoid turnovers at all costs, it could lead to him being gunshy about taking chances. That takes away his aggressiveness, which sure looked like what we were seeing with Pickett this past season.