Mason Cole

I don't think that is correct. Hassenauer played in the opener in 2021, but did not start. He played in the first 10 games, but did not start. He missed four games from Nov. 28 through Dec. 19, then returned for one more in a bench role before taking over at center for the final two games of the season.

 

he is entitled to a bad snap. 'terrible games' - please elaborate.....

 

I agree - we need one, get him in Rd 2 - move up if we have to. there are 3 really solid ones projected - just don't use a #1 on him.

EDIT - #1 it is!

 

it was alluded in another thread that K Green was drafted as a 'back up' - TomBert drafted him to START - another FINE BUST by that tandem. part of why we WALLOW is due to their HORRIBLE planning and drafting for 5+ years. 3rd round players that SUCK THAT BAD are clearly busts. lousy draft after lousy draft, starting around 2016.

 

They might not have a choice. I read that there is at least some talk that the top three centers might go in the first round. Powers-Johnson is going to go in the first round. I've seen mocks with Frazier going in the first, too.

 

i guess we leave that up to Khan and Co. to watch and know that (and study, see others teams needs, etc....) I'd love that job, I know that!

 

I think it was Pouncy who started our Playoff game against the Browns with a terrible snap. A lot of fans I talked to after the game blame that snap for all the misery that followed in that game. As for me the blame goes to the entire team that dreadful day.

I was so damn pumped for that game starting the night before. I wanted to cry when that ball went sailing over Ben's head but there were a lot more nightmares in that game then one bad snap.

 

The eagles are currently without a center so it’s a good bet one of the top centers goes off with their pick. The dolphins and jaguars are potentially in the market for a center as well. I would say it’s a good bet two of the top 3 are off the board in the first round. I know the tackle from duke is being projected as a center, but a project in the first round would be a huge reach

 

Kelsey is saying he is on the fence (?) - I am sure his decision will be a big factor for what they do.

 

yes - it was him.

my point is that he was a consummate pro for most of his career. not perfect, but a solid staple of that line. played many times thru significant injury as well.

yes - the beginning of that nightmare evening....

 

I am with you on this one. This team needs a center badly. The center is essentially the heart of the offense. If the center is continually snapping balls into the dirt and/or allowing pressure up the middle of the line the QB has very little chance at being consistent or being successful. If that means getting your guy in the first round then so be it.

 

I'm not saying 1 bad snap, but he wasn't moving people in the run game and was giving up pressure up the middle. The O-line was bad for a lot of the time the team was falling behind. Defense didn't help in a few of those, but they weren't controlling the game either.

The 1 bad snap is absolutely a tone setter when it puts you down a score 10 seconds in and you're supposed to be the leader on the O-line. Kind of sets a tone for that game coming from the Veteran Center thinking about retiring that everyone is getting up to play to try and get him a SB. Whole team effort, but as the starting center, you can't blow the first snap at home as a favorite.

 

I was looking over Daniels gameday snaps at PFR.
Besides being a center at Iowa, Daniels was the Center for all 26 starts he had in his first two seasons.
(As soon as Daniels was ready to start games, he pushed Whitehair to guard.)
Daniels was injured after the fifth game of 2020, and then was moved to guard in 2021 (with the Bears keeping their starting center Mustipher from the end of the 2020 season where he was).

Besides looking for a veteran center in FA or the draft, Daniels is a veteran center.
If the team can find a great guard in FA or the draft, then they should consider moving Daniels back to his "natural" position.

(I realize that normally a team wants to minimize the tinkering with an established offensive line, but if they are moving Jones back to LT and bringing in 2 more players anyways, I'd say the disruption is already done.)

 

This is how I remember it. JC was the starting Center on the depth chart, he was injured and then Kendrick Green was promoted right before the season started. Kendrick Green was not running the 1st team until JC was injured. I remembering it being JC and Zach Banner on the injury report basically all year long.

Injury to Steelers J.C. Hassenauer opens door for Kendrick Green (usatoday.com)

OC1: J.C. Hassenauer
OC2: Kendrick Green
OC3: B.J. Finney

The Steelers plans for the 2021 O-Line ended up being a complete disaster because of injuries and retirements that seemed to come out of no where. The injury to Banner that kept him on the sideline for the entire year, and Decastro announcing his retirement right before training camp caused the O-Line to hit an all time low.

This was supposed to be your 2021 stating O-Line.
LT CHUKWUMA OKORAFOR / Dan Moore Jr. (Rookie)
LG KEVIN DOTSON
C J.C. HASSENAUER / Kendrick Green (Rookie)
RG DAVID DECASTRO
RT 76 ZACH BANNER

 

he was old (er), end of his career. it happens to them all. that is my point too about CAM. but one pouncey play did not determine tht game. TOMLIN did. so tired of Tomlin and losing in the playoffs.

WE SUCKED ending that season, CLE came in here HOT.

 

You remember it incorrectly. Hassenauer didn't start in the opener, but he played. The injury might have helped Green beat him out, but it wasn't the reason he was on the bench when the games began.

 

They could have went and took any center off the street and they would have played better than Green at center. There's no way you can tell me they had no one that could have stepped in to replace him at any point, even if it meant simplifying your blocking assignments. Absolute failure of the coaches there!

 

Well, now that the best remaining Center in Free Agency, is a guy who may not even play in 2024, Connor Williams, you know it is bad when your own agent, Drew Rosenhaus, throws a little shade on your returning for the 2024 season., Is it time to revisit Mason Cole?

The one good thing about Arthur Smith and Russ's offense is we Should take more than double the snaps under center in 2024. I don't remember Mason Cole having any problems hiking the ball directly to the QB under center.

Mason Cole has a dead cap space of $1.6 million and if they can have him sign vet minimum deal for $1.2 million, that would be cheaper than the $6 million they were going to pay him. Maybe Mason Cole can do the Mason Rudolph thing of last year, after asking every team in the league if he could play for them, he tucked his tail between his legs and came back to Pittsburgh.

I would feel much happier going into the draft with Mason Cole sitting on the roster.

 

I would feel elated if the Steelers somehow got Amarius Mims in Round 1 and Graham Barton in Round 2. Again... I would feel elated but Graham Barton is a First Round Player all the live long day. Now... if he slides into Round 2... somehow... someway?!



Hopefully Kahn can work that phone! This all said, March 28th will determine if the Steelers interest in Graham Barton is as high as it was during the NFL Scouting Combine.

 

Ditto

Not that I want him to be the starter but it keeps us from reaching in the draft and throwing a rookie to the wolves

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