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Are Steelers Strategies Behind the Times?

Discussion in 'Steelers Talk' started by Steelersfan43, Feb 14, 2024.

  1. Steelersfan43

    Steelersfan43 Well-Known Member

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  2. Steelersfan43

    Steelersfan43 Well-Known Member

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    Colbert was washed at the end....I am not a pro analytics but you have to use it at moment

     
  3. strummerfan

    strummerfan Well-Known Member

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  4. 86WardsWay

    86WardsWay Well-Known Member

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    I’d say stupidity trumped analytics.
     
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  5. Steelersfan43

    Steelersfan43 Well-Known Member

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    It was a good decision by Cambell since the kicker of the Lions was like 45% in his career from this distance and it was a 4th down and 2 or somethings like that
     
  6. strummerfan

    strummerfan Well-Known Member

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    They were both 40-49 yard fg attempts or would have been. That guy is 77% from that range for his career.
     
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  7. Steelersfan43

    Steelersfan43 Well-Known Member

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    It was from 48 yards...Very different from 40-42 yards or so

     
  8. strummerfan

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    Jesus tap dancing christ man. Both fg were from 40-49 yards. Not 40-42. He is 37 of 48 at that range. To put it another way 77% for his career at that range.

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  9. Steelersfan43

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    The field goal was from 48 yards...Much different that from 40 yards.He is 45% in his career from this distance or longer.And 77% from 40-49 is not very good too from 40-49 yards...I prefer the fourth down and 2 with the Lions offense
     
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  11. 86WardsWay

    86WardsWay Well-Known Member

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    Yes they need to become darlings of the NFL and all start dating super internet influencers to gain 30 million teeny bopper fans who’s life balances on every moment of their idols days. Only then will Roger Gooddell reward us with Championships and TJ Watt can win DPOY year with 3 1/2 sacks and 4 QB pressures while at the same time finally getting his well deserved 38 holding calls going against his opponents.
     
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  12. Jball

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    If you're gonna live with analytics, you have to be willing to die by it.

    It's like optimal blackjack stragety . Mathematically, it's the correct way to play each hand. Over time it helps to even the odds with the house. But, you have to stick to it and it doesn't

    guarantee anything. There are no "gut feelings".
     
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  13. 86WardsWay

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    Blackjack only works analytically when you have smart people at the table playing just as well or else you can throw that strategy out the window.
     
  14. DJ18Baller

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    MT wants to muck it up and win games 7-6. Yes we are in the dark ages of modern football philosophy
     
  15. 86WardsWay

    86WardsWay Well-Known Member

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    When was the last time you seen a 7-6 Steelers final? Quit posting nonsense.
     
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  16. OB1

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    “48+” includes misses from 50+. That’s 100% wrong stat to use to assess a 48 yard FG.

    Talk about misunderstanding analytics completely. LOL
     
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    That kicker is also at 0% made FGs from -19 yards. He’s guaranteed to miss from inside the 20. :roflmao:
     
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    For a little while there I thought that's what AB and juju were trying to do. Not the dating thing but all the smiling as they took video in locker room, dancing on the 50 and posting ect.
     
  19. DJ18Baller

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    Only because our Defense isn’t good enough to hold the other team to 6 :roflmao:

    If you watch the Steelers play and think our offense is aggressive dynamic or innovative and not being told don’t lose the game, I got some news for you.
     
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  20. Steelersfan43

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    If we calculate that, their kicker was 4-7 in his career in FG from 48-49 yards... It was far from automatic... I don't blame Cambell for trusting his offense in this fourth and short in this situation especially since his offense was great in this game, the 49ers kicker had missed a kick in this same distance in this game and the lions had been on fourth down 40 times in 2023... They decided to remain aggressive, it's their style
     
  21. DJ18Baller

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    I don’t argue with the stats but a game in October is different than the NFC Championship. His aggression likely cost his team the game especially with a chance to go back up by 17 mid third quarter. I think SF would have been pretty defeated at that point. The one in the 4th was actually a little more reasonable because SF had all the momentum and even if Detroit tied it I think there was little doubt SF would have a long drive to win it on the Lions gassed D.
     
  22. Steelersfan43

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    I understand your point and I also understand why Cambell was on that fourth down...It was he had more confidence in his offense than his kicker
     
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  23. CK 13

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    Tomlin and Analytics :eek:

    The Steelers are in the dark ages living in the past. Hence why this team has not advanced in the playoffs for quite some time.

    I was hoping for an Innovative Offensive Coordinator. I don't feel Smith fits that bill but I hope i'm wrong. Only time will tell.

    I do feel that Art II is getting impatient and knows his time is coming to an end at the helm. Much of the same swill and a regime change may come before his son takes over.
     
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  24. Karl

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    Analytics are part of today's game. I despise that but they are.
    We see how bad Washington has been and they totally tossed those aside.
    Now they have an entire team dedicated to mining that stuff.
     
  25. Tweezer

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    I don't think analytics has been the issue with this team. I'm sure you can frame it that way if you want, but losing to Tebow and Bortles or getting blown out early by KC and Cleveland had nothing to do with analytics. Poor coaching and bad player performance is the reason for these losses. It would be nice to be in situations where analytics was more of the gripe.
     
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